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So many blogs talking about this, and yet not one of them actually has a clue as to what is really going on, so I'll just make one article and copypasta it around to set the record straight.

I actually know Chris Handley personally, and I'll spell it out for you as I see it from my perspective:

1. Chris has never been a fighter. He lives with his VERY domineering born-again christian mother at her house with his younger but much larger (and very neanderthal) brother. It's become a survival instinct for him to just let whatever is confronting him to simply surrender to it and get it over with. It's easy to see why he was such a voracious collector of manga. It was his escape route from his RL surroundings.

2. As far as I could tell, the most pervy thing Chris was into was "furry" comics. He's not into kiddie porn at all.

3. Why the publishers of this manga (or at least the company he ordered the books from) has never offered any help or even one single penny for defense is disgusting to me. So long as there are irresponsible publishers/retailers putting out crap just for the shock value and letting the suckers at the other end face the cops, the CBLDF will be useless to stop these kinds of arrests.

4. IMO, this has been going on for three grinding years and Chris just wanted to get this nightmare over with (and I'm sure his mother pressured him to plead guilty as well). Sorry CBLDF and Mr. Gaiman (you pretentious HACK), but Chris DOESN'T want to be burned at the stake just so you can use him as your latest poster boy to solicit donation$ at the next Comic-Con. It was HIS ass at risk of going to Federal prison, not your's, so don't you dare look down on him for his guilty plea. Go find another patsy to exploit, you vultures!
 
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Welcome to the board MiHi, please note Neil himself does not actually read the board (which you would have found actually reading our disclaimers) so slagging him off is not going to either reach him or do yourself any favours.

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from Neil's blog.

And finally, this is disappointing: http://www.cbldf.org/pr/archives/000390.shtml

Personally, I wish the CBLDF had been running the case, and not Mr Handley's lawyers. I am sure they feel they did the right thing, keeping him out of prison for owning manga and not allowing it to go to trial, but it's a bad outcome all around: bad for him, bad for comics and bad for the First Amendment.


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I see nothing in here indicating that he is being looked down on or wishing for him to be 'burned at the stake' - I see someone thinking he should have been found innocent, had a clear name and helped everyone else who found themselves in the same situation.

I'm quiet sure no blame was put on Mr Handley himself and I fully understand why he felt the pressures were too much for him. The blame, if there is any, were on his lawyers who did not have the full knowledge that the CBLDF would have had to give Mr Handley the power to fully defend himself and actually win this case.

Thank you for sharing your side of the story, however your attitude does not make it come across as a gracious one.


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Welcome to the board MiHi, please note Neil himself does not actually read the board (which you would have found actually reading our disclaimers) so slagging him off is not going to either reach him or do yourself any favours.



I am aware of that. Why he doesn't is a mystery. Does he think he's too important to notice the peasants below?
 
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The blame, if there is any, were on his lawyers who did not have the full knowledge that the CBLDF would have had to give Mr Handley the power to fully defend himself and actually win this case.

Thank you for sharing your side of the story, however your attitude does not make it come across as a gracious one.


Well, Chris' legal counsel was MUCH more involved with that case than Mr. Gaiman or the CBLDF were, and their conclusion was that the charges would very likely not pass the test of "artistic merit" or be acceptable within his immediate community.

The reason for my umbrage is that for years I have seen the comics industry take a hamfisted approach to the subject of censorship, with NO regard for the consumers at the other end of the line having to take personal risk. I've also seen how despite their self-portrayals as Champions of Freedom, their actual influence on cases is slim to none. Sending over a few token thousand dollars and offering the testimony of a few Comic Book Guys that no one outside the genre even has heard of is no way to fight off the Feds.

And when this bumblef*ck started meddling in the affairs of a friend of mine, that's when my axe-to-grind became personal.

I explained how Chris tends to handle challenges, and I was ticked at the way this arrogant joker all the way out on another continent was "disappointed" in him for Chris' decision, as if he knew wtf he was even talking about.

Like I said, this has become personal to me now.
 
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1. Neil's in the U.S.

2. You're mad because someone tried to do something to help your friends and it wasn't enough, or you're mad because someone did something that made things worse? If the former, then you're a chowderhead. If the latter, you're a poor speaker. Regardless, the fact that you can't quite figure out which continent the object of your disdain calls home doesn't make me have much sympathy.

3. Neil doesn't post to the boards because he's a busy guy. There are plenty of official message boards where the author or artist is not present.

I don't see why someone saying that they wished a trial had resolve so your non-pervy friend isn't labelled a pervert makes them a vulture, but whatever.


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Oh, really?

I suppose YOU were around to see what it was doing to Chris on so many levels, huh?

All the so-called CBLDF did was provide a few token dollars and offered testimony of some people that would have had NO bearing on the potential trial (and if anything, would have grossly backfired, because no one likes a stuck-up from out of state).

And regardless of which continent Mr. Gaiman is on, he's still a pretentious twat. "Too busy"? Oh render unto me a freaking break! More like "Thinks he's too important to notice the unwashed peasantry".

I said it before and I'll say it again, the CBLDF is nothing but a self-perpetuating money racket designed to terrify a genre for donations and is NOT out for the best interests of the accused. If Chris had let them take over the legal team like they and Mr. Gaiman were wanting, he'd already be Bubba's bitch by now.
 
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Neil and the CBLDF members are certainly not the only notables speaking up about this either. I found this form Neil`s twitter post, it was helpful because it collects a bunch of different testimonies: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/editorial/2010-02-24

The most recent one is from March: http://www.animenewsnetwork.co...itorial/2010-03-18/7
 
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