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is in perfect karmic alignment Member  |
This might be helpful:
This is from Wiki and is in not comprehensive. And a reminder from me to myself:
That'll larn me  Please <fwap> if i'm out of line. |
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has no member title Member  |
Interesting. According to this, at least two people can be accused of flaming in a certain thread. Excluding me.
And yeah, mini-modding seems not a good idea. Though I'm thinking if we all posted as if we held responsibility over a message board maybe we'd think twice before posting anything dubious. This message has been edited. Last edited by: His Noodle Girl, __ The brickchewing, camera flaunting restroom saint formerly known as Babylon the Bride |
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Technical Services Administrator Member  |
? eh? She asked a question, and I answered it. We define "flaming" as everyone else in the world does. Our definition is no different. If you would like to know what we base our moderation on, that's a completely different question. Our rules are clearly stated in the FAQs. That's what we base our moderation on. _____________________________________________________________ Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket. - Goonies |
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Goofy Beast Member  |
The definition may not be different, but the interpretations may very well be. One person's flame is another person's valid criticism, and vice versa. And while the rules are clearly stated in the FAQ, they are also up to interpretation to some extent.
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Technical Services Administrator Member |
Okay. Which parts are unclear? When GMZoe developed this, I thought it was pretty straightforward. When we see flaming outside of Flame Wars, we ask people to either take it to Flame Wars, or to stop. I'm not sure which parts people are having difficulties with? _____________________________________________________________ Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket. - Goonies |
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is in perfect karmic alignment Member |
In all honesty, though, our mods and Honorary mods have always used their discretion wisely and have had infinate patience with dolts who ask whether Neil reads the boards. I've never seen anyone banned, suspended, or even warned without very good reasons, usually directly from the FAQ.
ETA: MissTapata, simultaneous posting. I'll still leave the post, but this is not a direct reaction to yours. ~You are a *Taverner*. Sometimes patrons want to go where everybody knows their names, though it helps when half of them are named John. When people want to celebrate, or commiserate, they gather to your establishment. You provide the atmosphere, the warmth, rum, and even an ear to bend. Did I mention the rum? Years before the language will be mangled with terms like facilitator and networking and interpersonal communication, you've overseen it all, and broken up a few bar fights, to boot.~ -Royko |
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Goofy Beast Member |
Taking the examples on Flame Wars at the moment, certain observations on Big Ass Panda and his posting behaviour can in my opinion be seen as "opinions about a stance in a debate" (if that stance includes such things as tone and rhetoric means used), whereas Panda explicitly stated that he interpreted these observations as a flame.
When a poster's way of arguing is criticised, is that opinions about the person or not? (Honest question here.) |
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has no member title Member |
Okay, well, take an example.
If someone seems to be provocative and you say: "You're just trying to provoke everyone, as usual." or "You're just trying to provoke everyone in the dumbest way possible, as usual." I'm guessing it wouldn't receive a warning as a flame. But it is aggressive and critical and derisive and doesn't really add anything to the subject matter at hand. So it *should* be a flame according to the dictionary definition. I know this may seem like nitpicking, but that's kind of what I'm thinking about. __ The brickchewing, camera flaunting restroom saint formerly known as Babylon the Bride |
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Technical Services Administrator Member |
I'm sorry - I haven't been reading Flame Wars lately. I don't really know what posts you're refering to.
Are you asking if a person's criticism about an arguing style is an opinion of a person arguing or not? You'd have to ask the person who made the criticism, I'd imagine. _____________________________________________________________ Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket. - Goonies |
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Technical Services Administrator Member |
If a mod popped in and saw the 2nd example, we'd probably take it as a sign of further nastiness to come and remind folks involved about the existance of Flame Wars, and to please go there. _____________________________________________________________ Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket. - Goonies |
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has no member title Member |
Thanks.
__ The brickchewing, camera flaunting restroom saint formerly known as Babylon the Bride |
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has no member title Member |
Um...last question from my part (and I guess kind of what Thirith is asking...)
Sometimes people post stuff that just sounds idiotic. Are you allowed to say that, as long as you don't criticise the person himself? Like "I've never read anything about the subject that sounded that childish and arrogant and that displayed such a complete lack of common sense." ETA: I just realised all this sounds like I'm looking for a guideline on how to get at people without getting sanctioned. It's actually more that knowing the boundaries helps so I don't come too close but can still be clear if I object to someone's behaviour or posts. __ The brickchewing, camera flaunting restroom saint formerly known as Babylon the Bride |
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Technical Services Administrator Member |
If you are outside of Flame Wars, and if you feel strongly enough that you need to express to a poster that you think their post is idiotic, you may want to provide some reasons why their post is idiotic if indeed you are going to tell them their post is idiotic. _____________________________________________________________ Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket. - Goonies |
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Technical Services Administrator Member |
Jeremy, just saw this. You seem to forget that Dweller is a Fundamentalist, and really, he's never behaved like that. You might want to revise your generalization. _____________________________________________________________ Don't you realize? The next time you see sky, it'll be over another town. The next time you take a test, it'll be in some other school. Our parents, they want the best of stuff for us. But right now, they got to do what's right for them. Because it's their time. Their time! Up there! Down here, it's our time. It's our time down here. That's all over the second we ride up Troy's bucket. - Goonies |
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is in perfect karmic alignment Member |
I'm sure that was meant in the (technically incorrect) colloquial sense of the word, Amy. With no disrespect intended.
~You are a *Taverner*. Sometimes patrons want to go where everybody knows their names, though it helps when half of them are named John. When people want to celebrate, or commiserate, they gather to your establishment. You provide the atmosphere, the warmth, rum, and even an ear to bend. Did I mention the rum? Years before the language will be mangled with terms like facilitator and networking and interpersonal communication, you've overseen it all, and broken up a few bar fights, to boot.~ -Royko |
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Do or do not. There is no try. Member  |
The other thing to remember is the mods aren't going to ban you on the first instance. If you've approached the line or even crossed it, and was never called on it, I for one would be very upset if you were banned the next time you crossed the line. The strikes only count and add up when you're aware that you have them. All of our mods have been very keen on this (that I'm aware of) and one usually knows where they stand with them in regards to any discipline.
And this has a pretty good description and discussion of flames:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  I live for three things: The Girls, football, and live jazz. What do you live for? Let passion drive you. |
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Did something right Member  |
CH4 + 2O2 → CO2 + 2H2O + heat
---------------------------------------------------------- "It really is fun to to stick burning objects into various orifices." "Sorry I haven't been around much, but I am easily distracted by shiny objects." "WEIRD! WEIRDY-WEIRDO-WEIRD! WEIRDOPOTTAMUS WEIRDOSAUR! HIM! YOU! WEIRD!"-Mr. Furious |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member  |
fundamentalism n. - 1. strict maintainance of traditional Protestant beliefs. 2. strict maintainance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion. (Oxford) And recently of course, due to it being more widepread in use given current events, has come to mean any strictly held belief, including politcal, philosophical and economic. ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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The Doughmaster Member  |
Babs, I totally appreciate what you're trying to figure out, and why, but in a lot of instances it is subjective...however, I can tell you with all certainty that you have not flamed Panda.
~ Non-Mod-Amy, aka Amy of the Lost Ark You are a Bookholder. To prompt, or...LINE! (not to prompt) --not to prompt. That is the question. Whether t'is nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of a bad memory, or to take arms against a sea of textual deviations, and...LINE! (by opposing) --by opposing them...LINE! (end) --end...LINE! (them) --end them...LINE! (to prompt, to correct; no more; and by a correction to say we end the heart-ache of a really terrible performance) You didn't have to give me the whole thing! I know it! |
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Companion to owls Member  |
(Hehe, that's funny, coz in the Spanish Royal Academy of Language's dictionary, the first definition corresponds to Islamic fundamentalism, the second to Protestantism (although it'Protestantism is not mentioned as such), and the third one to general stuff. Interesting.)
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