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a friend of mine got sent this:

quote:

"Paul Watson, leader of the crazed eco-terrorists at Sea Shepherd, has
written a poem implying the earthquake which recently killed thousands of
Japanese was divine retribution for mistreating the oceans, whilst other
crackpot greens have been rejoicing at the prospect of people from the same
country as people who kill whales and dolphins dying.

The underlying implication is rather obvious and is not lost on his
followers.

His equally crazy coterie apparently see this as mother nature punishing the
Japanese for their wickedness, or even as an opportunity to blackmail Japan
into giving up whaling:

“It is a great tragedy and many innocent have been hurt by tremendous
Tsunami,
but this Kama was not punishment or justice for an individual, it was a
message to Japan as a Nation, not to overdo it with its poaching of the
world’s oceans!!!!!”

“maybe it is karma… Japan haven’t been the only ones to be on the receiving
end! The captain is right… This poem is true! We all need to wake up and
realise that we are just tiny beings out staying our welcome!”

“It’s getting better every time you will always get the fullest from me full
support for you if Japen is poor affter this disaster they are not going
have to bother the whales if theres going to be a valcano ready to go off”

“Capt. Watson: Japan will require and request aid. With aid, come conditions
and compromise. This is the opportunity for aid giving countries to demand
the end of Japanese Whaling in return for help. When asked by your local aid
organizations to give help and money, demand the end of Japanese Whaling.”

Other environmentalists pitch in on Twitter, which is currently playing host
to a revitalised campaign of anti-Japanese sentiment:

“It wasnt an earthquake, it was the dolphin uprising….”

“Another earthquake in Japan – when will karma hit Taiji? The pens will
crack open at Dolphin Base and the captives will return to the ocean”

“I hope the earthquake/tsunami in Japan swallows up every dolphin fishing
boat!!! That would be an answered prayer = happy safe dolphins!”

“did the earthquake destroy all those japanese dolphin killers? HMPH.”

“Is it messed up that I think the earthquake is what Japan gets for bombing
us at Pearl Harbor? #Karma #PayBack #WhatGoesAroundComesAround”

“you took something from the ocean Japan, and now the ocean wants something
back … No more Whale and dolphin Killing ..”

“Japan, a Whale Killing Nation, suffers the wrath of Mother Nature:
Earthquake and Tsunami. #Karma”

“Japan this is #Karma for Pearl Harbor!”

“Can’t help but thinking maybe the Japanese Earthquake is Karma for the
dolphin and whale killings :/”

“I’ve heard that there are some SS members in Otsuchi Iwate. Are they OK
after the earthquake? #seashepherd #taiji #thecove #cove”

“Serves Japan right that’s the sea getting its own back for all the dolphin
killing and shark killings they do!!!”

“didnt japan kill over +1,000 American soldiers on Dec 7, 1942… #karma”

“I don’t wanna be a bitch or anything, but after the dolphin & whale
slaughtering & everything else Japan does, I don’t feel bad. #karma”

“Poor Japanese. Maybe they shouldn’t have invaded Korea and China in the
50′s. #karma”

“loolz…japan get FUCK UP!!….thats for all the shark fins and whales ya’ll
been fucking up in the past. #karma”

“after watching the movie, #TheCove, its kinda hard to feel sorry for #japan
sorry dolphin slaughterers”

“Japan attacks Pearl Harbor, mother nature attacks them. #karma”

“Natural disasters are terrible… but I am willing to bet the Whale Wars cast
is cracking brews and chuckling right about now #Karma”

“Hello World don’t send any troops or help to #japan….ask them to sign or
give up killing the whales and dolphin!!!this is the time!!!”

“I’m feeling remorse for the kids and animal lovers in Japan Frown but do u
think its karma 4 all those who eat dogs&cats and..”

“My mom is so cold. She said that she’s glad for Japan’s loss and said that
it’s karma for all the things they’ve done to us Koreans, hahaha.”

“What did Japan expect? They kill dolphins. #karma”

Amongst the (presumed) minority of Americans willing to make such comments,
the notion that the earthquake is karmic comeuppance for Pearl Harbor is an
exceedingly common one.

China too has seen some hateful comments, although again the vast majority
appear to express sympathy and admiration for Japan’s handling of the
crisis, calling the negative remarks “shameful” and praising their orderly
response as “moving” and ”something China won’t be capable of even in 50
years.”

The most spiteful official response seen is undoubtedly that of North Korea,
which coolly published news of the quake alongside an article condemning
Japan as an imperialist oppressor and demanding compensation."


wish we could just get them together in one place and keep shrinking it.. then we shoot the ones that fall out...

ignorance only hurts everyone..


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good lord!



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So karma for Pearl Harbour didn't include Hiroshima, Nagasaki and the firebombing of every major Japanese city? Apparantly karma is a fan of US exceptionalism.

And to all those fans of karma, lets hope they realise that Japan has donated more money to developing nations in the past 20 years than any other country. Not per capita aid, but total aid. Karma says Japan gets all that good shit back.

Knee jerk spite is always fun Roll Eyes


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Heyla

Yes, I particularly enjoy hearing such tripe here, given how much Hurricane Katrina assistance came out of Japan's coffers. -shakes head- You were saying something about karma....?


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also, if you use someone else's misfortune as an opportunity to crow about their karma, doesn't this in some way impact on one's own karma? being PLEASED that bad things have happened to others is NOT a good way to build up the good kind of karma.


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an eye for an eye makes everybody blind

most people of a specific country seem to forget all of the things that their country has done to other nations when something happens to them



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I really detest that attitude. I mean, if these idiots knew their history they should all be scared shitless at what the US has wrought in Latin America (amongst elsewhere).

ARG.


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i think australia is the only continent that they haven't pushed people around excessively

but i could be wrong, they probably have there too



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Australia isn't so much the americans as the british. we sent all our convicts out there for YEARS, and the treatment of the Aborigine tribes was about as good as the colonial treatment of the Native Americans. *sigh* Empire building is a shitty way to continue, quite frankly.


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yeah, its pretty much the cost of colonizing places

but even post colonization attempting america has a thing with sticking their noses in everyone's business

*note I have nothing against any americans on this board, or any specific americans...i apologize if i come off that way sometimes*



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Are those actual claims that actual people have made? Because there's no specific info, and to me it seems more like a trick to put people against the activist by saying THEY said horrible things first.


 
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Sadly, these are actual claims that people have made. There's a website that has a bunch. I mean, I don't know if this Paul Watson that the article names is really among these people... but those sorts of tweets are out there. The ones saying things like "remember Pearl harbor" are particularly out there, as I'm pretty sure they were not even born yet and therefore could not remember it. Seriously, I just cannot even fathom the mindset behind any of these comments.


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Originally posted by cloverheart:
Are those actual claims that actual people have made? Because there's no specific info, and to me it seems more like a trick to put people against the activist by saying THEY said horrible things first.


I think clover has hit the nail on the head.

Paul Watson has said no such things - or at least I can't find records where he did. I'm not much of a fan of him personally, but he posted this in his commentary on the Sea Shepherd website:
quote:
I have heard many people say that Japan’s tragedy is karma. People who say such things do not understand the concept of karma. This earthquake struck Japan purely on the basis of geography and geology.


and
quote:
Our people onshore and the average citizen of Japan were equals in the face of this tragedy. Japan did not deserve this disaster nor should anyone ever imply that they did.


One of the Sea Shepherd volunteers who was caught up in the tsunami posted this in his account:
quote:
I cannot begin to describe the amount of kindness and generosity shown to us this day. It confirms my beliefs that Japanese people are warm and kind. The activities of the dolphin molesters in Taiji and the porpoise molesters of Iwate are aberrations and absolutely not the rule. There is so much hope that we will see the end of the slaughters and that Japan will become the leader it should be in marine conservation.


If they have posted what Masque's friend has said, I can't find it on their website. They aren't responsible for nutters who are trying to ride on their coat-tails.

Masque, it sounds like your contact is trying to use the crisis to have a pop at a conservation group. Two minutes googling would have disproved what they got sent.


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(That said, I do not doubt there's plenty of anonymous idiots who will post the sort of stuff Moon Jester linked to, because sadly there's always been arseholes in the world, but I refuse to dedicate any more time to their arseholery.)


 
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The full text of Cpt. Watson's poem:

Neptune's voice rolled like thunder thru the sky
Angrily he smote the deep seabed floor
From the shore echoed mankind's mournful cry
The sea rose up and struck fast for the shore

From out of the East with the rising sun
The seas fearful wrath burst upon the land
With little time to prepare or to run
Against a power no human can stand


It's more of a crime against poetry than anything else. The rest of the quote don't seem to match up to anything he's said, apart from this quote:

Japan will require and request aid. With aid, come conditions and compromise. This is the opportunity for aid giving countries to demand the end of Japanese Whaling in return for help. When asked by your local aid organizations to give help and money, demand the end of Japanese Whaling.


It could certainly be seen as opportunistic, but, again, no mention of karma or anything like that.


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just now saw this, but is there really anything wrong with demanding a compromise in such a situation?

i admit it's sort of taking advantage of a horrible situation, but Japan has demonstrated complete unwillingness to end whaling even under pressure from the international community....

clearly though, anyone who could say that they deserved it as a nation is a complete asshole
 
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