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Originally posted by Limertilly:
wow. it's interesting, i'm also the girl that all the guys pass over, despite the fact that, dammit, i'm damn well NOT ugly. yes, i'm overweight. but that led me to develop a personality in self defence against the school bullies, and as Ava puts it, i also am hella good in bed. and yet, no one wants to find this out because they all seem so put off by my weight. and i'm not hugely horribly obese. i dress very well for my best features to be shown off, and i'm lucky enough to be very well proportioned. it's interesting to wonder what will change when i reach my target weight, at about 140lbs. and how fast it will change as i go through the weight loss. i don't know. what i DO know is that i will trust men even less if they all suddenly start swarming, because these will be the same men that ignored me before.


There is a very serious fantasy of mine in there - ah, saying no to them finally.


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"They warn you about killers and thieves in night
I worry about cancer and living right
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what i DO know is that i will trust men even less if they all suddenly start swarming, because these will be the same men that ignored me before.


yes, that possibility always bothered me. it would bother me more if I didn't know women were the exact same way. so it's just a problem with humanity, unfortunately.

also, in the same vein, I flipped out a bit today watching the husband play Devil May Cry 4 (which is awesomesauce, lemme tell you, the forthcoming rant aside). they introduced some super-sexsay women with bandages for clothes who stands about with her chest stuck out in a horribly unnatural (and presumably uncomfortable) manner when she isn't putting her hand all the way up her thigh in order to stick a knife in her boot. I mean, yeah, she's sexy, but so aggressively sexy that I got pissed off. I mean, when do I get to see Dante strip and intentionally do suggestive things with his ginormous sword, huh? bleh. *mutters incoherently*


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I think all of you ladies are gorgeous and deserve to be loved up, no matter what size you are.

It's been said in the Nice Guys thread, some might say interminably, but self-confidence is the most attractive feature that someone can have. Anyone who rejects you over your weight more than likely has their OWN self-confidence issue to overcome.

The direction this thread is taking reminds me of a play by Neil LaBute, Fat Pig. It's the story of a romance between an average-sized guy and an overweight girl and the toll that society's expectations takes on them.




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“Is that Ms Ephemera hovering over the croquet lawn?”
“Indeed m’lud. She’s marshalled all the haggle-dans. Missy-twigs and vale-nymphs from Claypole Woods. Apparently she intends to tear this house down and dance on the ruins.”
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Originally posted by Alaura of Fleet Street:
It's been said in the Nice Guys thread, some might say interminably, but self-confidence is the most attractive feature that someone can have.

Ok, I hear everyone say this, but from what I've seen, at least around here. Self confidence is a huge detriment to being wanted. The girls go crazy for guys who are over compensating for things or almost totally devoid of confidence. I've got a question in here somewhere... I just don't know what it actually is...
 
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it depends on the type of girl in question. is she a nurturer, a Florence Nightingale, a reformist? does she want to be the one to save you? in that situation, having a Charlie Brown edge could be a not-bad thing, as long as you are salvagable. there is nothing more obnoxious than a guy who's in the dumps and refuses to be encouraged.


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The Nice Guy can has been opened, the worms have been released and the thread has been bumped.




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“Chives?”
“Yes, m’lud?”
“Is that Ms Ephemera hovering over the croquet lawn?”
“Indeed m’lud. She’s marshalled all the haggle-dans. Missy-twigs and vale-nymphs from Claypole Woods. Apparently she intends to tear this house down and dance on the ruins.”
“Well, Chives, you’d better start the car, what? And pack my tennis things too”
--- Joe 3Heads
 
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Originally posted by Limertilly:
it's interesting to wonder what will change when i reach my target weight, at about 140lbs. and how fast it will change as i go through the weight loss. i don't know.

I'm also curious to know how things will change. A close friend of mine has lost about 60 pounds over the past few months & it absolutely throws him because people react so differently to him - he says people who never talked to him are now stopping to chat to him, & so on. I find it hard to believe that so many people can be so shallow (& display that shallowness so openly), but I don't have any reason to doubt him.


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Originally posted by Limertilly:
... and as Ava puts it, i also am hella good in bed....


This appears to be an unqualified statement. I mean, has:

  • Has MI5 ever requested your help in honeypot operations?
  • Anyone ever died in the throes of passion as a result of your ministrations?
  • Have you ever been requested to appear in a pornographic movie?
  • Has an Arab sheik ever requested that you join his harem?


And who are the ladies and gentleman making this evaluation? Sunday School Teachers, Porn Stars, Cougars, El Leprechaun, Lecherous Professors, or The Boy Next Door™?

Details, details…
 
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no to the first, nearly to the second, >.> possibly to the third, and yes to the fourth. well. he SAID he was a sheik. he may have said shake. i don't know.

and ladies and gentlemen making this evaluation are people who might have had one or two other experiences with which to compare me, actually. Razz


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Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon
 
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Originally posted by Limertilly:
... and as Ava puts it, i also am hella good in bed....


This appears to be an unqualified statement. I mean, has:

  • Has MI5 ever requested your help in honeypot operations?
  • Anyone ever died in the throes of passion as a result of your ministrations?
  • Have you ever been requested to appear in a pornographic movie?
  • Has an Arab sheik ever requested that you join his harem?


And who are the ladies and gentleman making this evaluation? Sunday School Teachers, Porn Stars, Cougars, El Leprechaun, Lecherous Professors, or The Boy Next Door™?

Details, details…

I uh... I guess I could.. give a... Why in the world am I on the list?
 
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el leprechaun hasn't been that lucky yet. Razz


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-Brian Andreas


Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon
 
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Yet eh? Wink
 
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Originally posted by Limertilly:
it's interesting to wonder what will change when i reach my target weight, at about 140lbs. and how fast it will change as i go through the weight loss. i don't know.

I'm also curious to know how things will change. A close friend of mine has lost about 60 pounds over the past few months & it absolutely throws him because people react so differently to him - he says people who never talked to him are now stopping to chat to him, & so on. I find it hard to believe that so many people can be so shallow (& display that shallowness so openly), but I don't have any reason to doubt him.


i was involved with a man who had been very heavy when he was in high school...then he lost an incredible amount of weight through almost obsessive workouts in his early twenties...but continued to have very low self-esteem. i would tell him that he was gorgeous (and he really was...6 ft tall and slender, dark hair and blue eyes)...he would receive postitive attention from female co-workers...and yet he still couldn't quite believe that anyone could find him attractive. it is unfortunate that people make judgements about others as a result of their weight...but there are those who look for specific characteristics in their partners...and you can't change what people consider to be physically appealing.

and he was 8 years younger than me when i met him...and i was in my thirties at the time...so perhaps some would consider me a cougar...although i don't fit the description that has been discussed here. Wink


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Originally posted by Limertilly:
... and as Ava puts it, i also am hella good in bed....


This appears to be an unqualified statement. I mean, has:

  • Has MI5 ever requested your help in honeypot operations?
  • Anyone ever died in the throes of passion as a result of your ministrations?
  • Have you ever been requested to appear in a pornographic movie?
  • Has an Arab sheik ever requested that you join his harem?


And who are the ladies and gentleman making this evaluation? Sunday School Teachers, Porn Stars, Cougars, El Leprechaun, Lecherous Professors, or The Boy Next Door™?

Details, details…



I guess I should respond as well...

No to the first but it more likely would have been the FBI.

No to the second - however I did get one response of "I think I almost passed out."

Yes to the third - though I declined, I have however agreed to the occassional private showing.

No to the fourth though I am in someone's harem of a sort.

And the Ladies and Gentlemen making these judgments come from many walks of life. Most of them experienced enough to know how I compare. At least most of the categories you listed are covered... except El Leprechaun has not had the pleasure here either. Others from around here have. Wink


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"I claim the capacity to doubt." - Herman Wouk

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"They warn you about killers and thieves in night
I worry about cancer and living right
But my mama never warned me about my own
Destructive appetite" - Jenny Lewis "Happy"
 
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oh yeah. i forgot. someone once actually prayed to me. a proper prayer. Big Grin it was highly amusing and flattering all at once.


"Are you a princess? I said & she said I'm much more than a princess, but you don't have a name for it yet here on earth."

-Brian Andreas


Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon
 
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oooh I have been worshipped a few times as well. Does that count? Being titled "earth goddess" and "sexy bitch" should count.


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"I claim the capacity to doubt." - Herman Wouk

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"They warn you about killers and thieves in night
I worry about cancer and living right
But my mama never warned me about my own
Destructive appetite" - Jenny Lewis "Happy"
 
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oh yeah. i forgot. someone once actually prayed to me. a proper prayer. Big Grin it was highly amusing and flattering all at once.


a proper prayer? please, you must elaborate!


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oh yeah. i forgot. someone once actually prayed to me. a proper prayer. Big Grin it was highly amusing and flattering all at once.


a proper prayer? please, you must elaborate!


She must be a 'Love Goddess'. Eek
 
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I didn't realize cougars meant "predatory older women", as Black Jacques defined them at the beginning of this thread.

Ok, the idea I had is based on just a couple of articles in which the term cougar was used, but I thought the concept referred to the kind of middle aged and older women who aren't afraid to still enjoy and express their sexuality, take initiative and an active role in pursuing their erotic interest, including men younger than themselves.

And I assumed the point was to dispel some of the taboos around women hooking up with men younger than themselves, and the sexist and ageist stereotypes of sexually active older women as somehow comical/pathetic/desperate/ridiculous/drunk-guy's-last-choice (undertones which I thought I detected here and there in this thread as well). The whole idea being that women past a certain age can still be sexy, confident and considered erotically interesting, even to a younger partner.

But it's all in the definition, I guess? Am I wrong, or is the understanding here that the term cougar is just another example of how some women take pride in engaging in certain, morally at least ambiguous behaviour (say, treating younger people purely as sex objects) that has previously been considered predominantly male territory?


You are not wrong.

Plus, society is constantly shoving it down our throat to stay fit, look younger than you are, have a huge libido. So now the older women are listening. But no no no! Now, at your age, if you want all of this bounty (beauty, relations with younger men, youthful libido), you must take your grain of salt and be called a slur based solely on your years alive. Not Fair!
 
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It *is* slightly nicer than the male version "perv", however. Wink


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