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Click here! Member  |
Mothers Day. My brother-in-law's birthday lunch. Half the extended family gathered around a very fancy table on a very large lawn.
My sister-in-law and her husband have their own pharmacy, and somewhere between the soup and the main course my brother-in-law proudly told us how the day before he'd refused to sell clean needles to a couple of drug users, even though he's legally allowed to do so. Upon prompting, he declared that as far has he's concerned, all drug users should get AIDS and die. When in the ensuing, rather tense discussion my husband incredulously asked him why not then just put a bullet in their head to make it quicker, my brother-in-law said he'd have nothing against that either. I got so upset that I had to excuse myself and weep in the bathroom for a minute, because fuck. Then it was time to return to the table and sing Happy Birthday to Captain Humanity. ------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here. |
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Infrangibly mellifluous Member  |
what the... ?
holy fuck. that's scary. what a fucking awful thing to say. "Are you a princess? I said & she said I'm much more than a princess, but you don't have a name for it yet here on earth." -Brian Andreas Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon |
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Melittosphex sapiens Member  |
Gah, Tis, I'm sorry you have to deal with such a twit.
*********************** "In science, there are no universal truths, just views of the world that have yet to be shown to be false" - J Forshaw & B Cox. |
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Click here! Member |
Yeah... The thing is, I've always liked him. I knew he's a conservative, but this came as a total surprise.
It's not like I haven't heard people express obnoxious opinions before, but this was just so unexpected - and really disturbing also because he's in a position to actually do people harm. As far as I know, their pharmacy's the only one in that part of town, so it's quite possible those people had to come up with a much worse way to get their needles since he wouldn't sell any. Gah. Most of all I'd just like to kick myself for going into shut down mode in stead of reasoning with him better. ------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here. |
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has no member title Member  |
Yeah, I know what you mean.
There'll be other times to argue with him. Some things just take their time, and it's better that you think up a good strategy than that you'd just have yelled at him over lunch and burst into tears (like I would have done.  )__ ...has to eat terrible things in the name of justice. |
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Melittosphex sapiens Member |
I... think I kind of know what you mean. A sucky, painful situation indeed. *********************** "In science, there are no universal truths, just views of the world that have yet to be shown to be false" - J Forshaw & B Cox. |
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Has no front teeth Member  |
That's not conservative that's focking nuts. Sorry you have to figure out how to deal with a mind like that Tis. ______________________ Fandangling across the moony sky, went the Beezee bold as brass, side-saddle she sat, on a big painted bat, shooting moonbeams out of her a(censored)e. ~Joe ________________________ Isn't sanity really just a one trick pony, anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy¦ooh ooh ooh the sky's the limit! |
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Administrator/Colporteur Member  |
I'm with Beez on this one - that's not a conservative opinion, it's a suicidal one. Gah. Horrifying to have to deal with someone like that, but good for you not turning the family gathering into more of a brouhaha than it seems it already was.
__________ AJGraeme "As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our safety and our ideals. Our Founding Fathers, faced with perils we can scarcely imagine, drafted a charter to assure the rule of law and the rights of man, a charter expanded by the blood of generations. Those ideals still light the world, and we will not give them up for expedience's sake." -Barack Obama "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried." - G.K. Chesterton |
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Click here! Member |
Oh gosh, I certainly didn't mean to imply that his is a typical conservative opinion. What I tried (and failed) to express was that before this, my brother-in-law just came across as a normal, very likable guy, although with some rather right-wing political views (including on immigration, multiculturalism and such). Which is why I was so shocked. I really didn't expect this.
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Has no front teeth Member |
No no Tis, I got that. I wasn't thinking that it was typical conservative thinking. It doesn't make it any less nuts though. ______________________ Fandangling across the moony sky, went the Beezee bold as brass, side-saddle she sat, on a big painted bat, shooting moonbeams out of her a(censored)e. ~Joe ________________________ Isn't sanity really just a one trick pony, anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy¦ooh ooh ooh the sky's the limit! |
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Rumble Fish Member |
there is nothing wrong with my Internet connection. but my Skype keeps cutting out.
randomly. is SO FRUSTRATING i can't even describe it. GAAAAH. |
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Click here! Member |
So, the sewer flooded last night again. Or tried to. I was prepared this time, had plugged all the drains and even jammed a sack of sand into the toilet before going to bed. I still had to get up and stand on the pile of phone books I'd wrapped in plastic to stop the sewage water from welling up in the shower. At fucking 3AM.
Still, no damage this time. Unlike a couple of weeks ago, when the downpour caught us by surprise and the sewer backflow valve totally failed to work (it seemed to be half working last night). You know that story of the little Dutch boy who stuck his finger in the dike? Well, that's what I felt like then, desperately trying to jam a towel into the drain with a shampoo bottle while the mucky water was rising and streaming from the shower booth into the bathroom, and my husband was trying to mop and barricade the room so the sewage wouldn't spill into the other downstairs rooms. And afterwards we stayed up until 4AM cleaning up and disinfecting every square inch, including ourselves. It was so depressing that I didn't even want to post about it here. So, it could've been worse last night... but it was still hard to get any sleep afterwards. And why is it that this thing always happens in the middle of the night anyway? And the rant-y part: the city's tearing open our street this summer, to make it prettier. Why couldn't they fix the fucking sewers, too, while they're at it? ------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here. |
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Melittosphex sapiens Member |
Oh, goodness, Tis, that sounds absolutely ghastly.
(I remember helping out a friend, just home with her newborn, whose ground floor and garden were awash with sewage. Not pretty.) Mine is a minor irritant, rather than a ghastly middle-of-the-night-hold-the-tide-o'-shit-back story, but the cold water in the block is off today, so in order to have a wash or do the dishes, I have had to fill buckets with scalding hot water and wait for them to cool! *********************** "In science, there are no universal truths, just views of the world that have yet to be shown to be false" - J Forshaw & B Cox. |
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Infrangibly mellifluous Member |
jesus, tis, that sounds hideous.
 "Are you a princess? I said & she said I'm much more than a princess, but you don't have a name for it yet here on earth." -Brian Andreas Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon |
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has no member title Member |
Eww! Poor you. Why does this keep happening, Tis?
__ ...has to eat terrible things in the name of justice. |
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Click here! Member |
This was the third time in the 3 years that we've lived here. The first time was by far the worst, according to my husband - I was away on a vacation (I know it makes me a bad person but I can't help thinking "great timing"
). The downstairs got flooded from the toilet. *germaphobic grimace* Luckily we hadn't even finished moving in here then, so there wasn't any furniture, or even floorboards yet. Since then we installed the backflow valve, which solved the problem for a few years, but it seems to be malfunctioning now a bit.
Our downstairs is below the street level (although above the ground on the backyard side - a topography thing), and as soon as there's a heavy downpour of rain, all the sewers in the street fill up and the sewage starts to flow backwards, into the house sewers. And without a (functioning!) backflow valve this means it all starts to pour out of every shower drain, bathtub or toilet anyone has in their basement/ground floor. Apparently the sewer capacity in our street isn't enough for the heavy rain we get every now and then. It's this whole Dutch living-below-the-sea-level thing, too, I guess. Some pump somewhere should probably be much bigger and better and work, dammit.
I've never heard of it happening that way! Sounds a little dangerous - couldn't someone unaware of the situation burn themselves in the shower or something? I don't have any warm water in the kitchen today - we're replacing the boiler - wish we could swap some buckets!  ------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here. |
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Melittosphex sapiens Member |
We did get a note through the door, so in theory they've covered their bums. And the hot water is extra extra hot since they discovered legionella a short time ago! But anyone who lives here has long learned to check the water temp before they step under it. Oh goodness - today of all days I'd have thought you'd have needed hot water to clean up! *********************** "In science, there are no universal truths, just views of the world that have yet to be shown to be false" - J Forshaw & B Cox. |
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Dane Cook's Final Horcrux Member |
my flatmate has (again) failed to grasp that you need to press the flush button for a while to clear the loo. Therefore, when I'm away for the weekend and it's only him flushing (other flatmate has en-suit), the loo has become blocked. And he is completely incapable of dealing with anything practical, so dispit the fact I've been away all weekend I am the one dealing with it.
____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com Rome wasn't built in a day. But I wasn't on that particular job. - Brian Clough |
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mutant hedgehog worm Member  |
Tis sounds like they seriously need to upgrade the sewer/stormwater system!
It has to be old since they have seperated sewer and stormwater since the 70's I still remember in the 1989 back in NZ during cyclone bola, the mixed sewer/stormwater was actually gushing like fountains up out of the grates in the street! Sounds like a horrible situation, i hope that it won't cost a fortune to check if the valve is still good!  |
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Click here! Member |
We have a separate boiler downstairs, so we do have hot water in the house, thank goodness! And the damage was very little last night anyway, thanks to my neurotic before-bed ritual with the sand sacks and stuff, and sleeping so fitfully that the first gurgling sound woke me up, just in time to throw my weight on the phone books on the shower drain. (Mr. Tis had actually thought I was being paranoid - he thought he'd fixed the valve. Boy does he owe me some flowers.)
I'd think so too! It seems terribly unhygienic. It wouldn't surprise me if the system is as old as the houses in our street. Which would be more than 100 years. ------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here. |
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