you people depress the fuck out of me.

that is all.

I don't think that the "New Frontier" analogy holds, though, Mijo, because I don't think you can ever know every aspect of another person. If you tried to, I suspect that over time, you'll see that certain aspects keep on changing as the other person gets older, so as soon as you think he or she has been "mapped" the topography changes on you.

Maybe music is a better analogy - no one can ever sing a song exactly the same way twice, little nuances will always be different. So I supose you could get board with it, but if you really love the either the singer or the song, you won't be, this small differences will make every version even more interesting.

I think people are more fractal than you are allowing, Miho. There is always annother layer, but you have to be willing to work to get there.

and anyway, pushing the boundaries, mapping new ground is one thing...

But if you approach the same ground in a different way, or at a different season of the year, or when the wind is westerly... it's not the frontier explorers that have the best lives, necesarily, it's those that use those maps to make a new home for themselves.

I`ve always been a very restive spirit Mischief and not terribly good at distinguishing subtleties. Ergo I go for the grand gestures and exuberant declarations over the humdrum banality of daily life. I want to be Hannibal, crossing the Alps with my elephants and not sitting on a suburban commuter train packed with the docile sat entranced by cheap tabloids. It`s a profound disatisfaction that permeates all aspects of my life, including the intimate. I don`t just want jam today, but I want it to be best damned jam in the entire universe...

Tough titty?

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Originally posted by aisha:
Tough titty?

Pagh. The moment you roll over and accept your lot you might as well just pull out a gun and shoot yourself. I prefer to fight for what I want.

Then it's a problem with yourself, not with sex. don't generalise about your specific situation.

Perhaps you can learn, unless you assume it's not something you can do anything about

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Originally posted by Babe of the Abyss:
Likewise there must come a point in any attachment when the partners have explored every inch of one another, ran through the entire Kama Sutra or whatever and know each other`s habits and desires inside out?

No, there mustn't. First of all, there isn't that much time in a day.

Secondly, it's not about trying new things all the time, so much as getting some things right. After all, why go through all three hundred pages of the Kama Sutra when pages 37, 71 and 92, repeated, produce incredible results?

Thirdly, that's a lot of effort to expend. By the time you get all that sorted out, desires have diminished, shifted and changed, at least generally. There's nothing wrong with having a diminished sex drive, whatever the commercials might say, provided that you're no less in love, and that your partner isn't frustrated by it.

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What other options are left for either to progress than to move on and begin the adventure anew with another person?

I'm confused. How can something ephemeral have a progression that's worth keeping track of?

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The imagination may have an infinite scope but our physiology does not. Every journey has a beginning and an end.

Pithy, but pointless. Defining any part of a relationship, even the physical part of a relationship, by the originality and variation in the bedroom, is missing out on what matters in a relationship.

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Originally posted by Babe of the Abyss:
I`ve always been a very restive spirit Mischief and not terribly good at distinguishing subtleties. Ergo I go for the grand gestures and exuberant declarations over the humdrum banality of daily life. I want to be Hannibal, crossing the Alps with my elephants and not sitting on a suburban commuter train packed with the docile sat entranced by cheap tabloids. It`s a profound disatisfaction that permeates all aspects of my life, including the intimate. I don`t just want jam today, but I want it to be best damned jam in the entire universe...

The selfishness of one partner does not constitute a flaw in intimacy as a whole.

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Originally posted by Babe of the Abyss:
Likewise there must come a point in any attachment when the partners have explored every inch of one another, ran through the entire Kama Sutra or whatever and know each other`s habits and desires inside out?

You're replying to my previous post and ignoring it at the same time -so I'll be a bit clearer: people change. As has already been pointed out, also desires change, likes and dislikes, etc. After a while, yes, you know what gets your partner gping, he knows what you like, you know what works for each of you, what works for both, what's good for a laugh and what's good for hours of steaming sex, and what's good for when you only have time for a quicky (*).
And still, there's always new things you might want to try or stuff you don't like that much or he's gotten terribly good at something he wasn't good at first or you discover a newfound ability for something else.

(*)And who says this is a bad thing anyway? Much as you might want to "explore" (hey, I grew up thinking I'd travel my way through the world learning languages, getting to know cultures and accumulating exotic lovers), when you care for someone, when you LOVE someone... you discover that that kind of routine is nice too, and the realisation that you know someone to that extent and you both share this thing gives sex and sexual pleasure a whole new dimension.

There's a lot of strong and serious viewpoints being expressed here.



I like it when someone touches my peepee.

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Originally posted by Lawerence McWhiskeyson:
There's a lot of strong and serious viewpoints being expressed here.



I like it when someone touches my peepee.

I was going to add something to the many viewpoints expressed here. I was going to post on who I agreed with and who I didn't. I was going to post something about the rarity of true love and how being mortal we can imagine that love can last forever. I was going to post something about how the love and respect I have for my wife spills over into every aspect and acts of intimacy keep getting better and better even after 10 years together.

but really I think Lawerence sums it up best.

Yep. Larry wins the thread.

Hey.
If ya' like that check out my reply on the 'I just got laid' thread.

Very interesting thread!
Ofcourse i could start reviewing all posts, what i agree with and what i don't. Most of it has been said allready.

But you see, thinking you'll 'run out' of things to do between the sheets (or in the living room, on the kitchen table, the sink, the stairs the floor) is rather like saying that after so-many years you'll run out of things to argue about, and you never do, do you?

What i think is getting muddled here, is that we're talking about sex, in different contexts (sp?).
Sex in a relationship, is like everything else in said relationship. You shouldn't be in a relationship because you want to be in one. Or because you want a girl/boyfriend, or because you want sex on a semi-regular basis.
You're in that relationship because you want (or wanted at one time) to be with that person. Not with just one role that person might have in your life.

Same goes between the sheets. Most of the time (in my admittedly limited experience) you're extatic because you found, like, an hour to have sex, where by some happy coincidence, you *both* felt like it, and no-one was ringing the doorbell. No time for 'exploration', But you're happy to be with that person anyway.
So imo, if you run out of possibilities, well... you're either dead, or you have too much time on your hands .

Sex is like oxygen.. It's only a big deal if you're not getting any...

or...

Those who can, do... those who can't, whine about it on the internet....

...or
Those who do, brag about it on the internet...

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Originally posted by Punkyfins:
Very interesting thread!
Of course i could start reviewing all posts...

You're going to write reviews of the other poster's sex lives?

Heh...
I don't think i'd have the stomach for it