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Originally posted by The First of the Fallen:
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Originally posted by Big Ass Panda:
Furthermore, going onto the anti-racism laws, I entirely support legislature defending indivisuals/small comunities against crimes, however I am very much against sensoring someone based on the fact that you disagree with what they say! Bring those Nazies to the front and let them express their views so it can be seen for the idiocy it is.

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Originally posted by Big Ass Panda:
Of course, I'm not doing that at all. I believe that certain races are naturally superior to other races. It's rather clear, as you all have seen.

As far as discussion goes, I don't know, maybe something about personality steriotypes etc.

After looking at what I could find online:

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Inheriting Stereotypes
The other area where Asian parents cause their sons no amount of grief is not really their fault. Actually, it's the stereotypes that the former generations cause the latter generations to inherit. Let me explain.

One common criticism to the points we make on this site is something along the lines of: "Of COURSE girls don't want Asian men! Asian men are sexist pigs who expect their wives to stay in the kitchen, not speak unless being spoken to, walk five paces behind their husband, and bear as many children as necessary until they give their husband a son!" This is where the stereotypes come in. While it's true that maybe two generations ago, such views were valid, things are not the same today. And yet the view still holds. It's so bad such that Asian girls born in America, having seen how their father treats their mother or how their grandfather treats their grandmother, swears she'll never date an Asian man, because she mistakenly assumes that all the Asian men her age will treat her like that. This assumption is fallacious as any Asian man born in America will likewise have seen how his grandfather has treated his grandmother and sworn never to do the same. Yet this will never help him because Asian girls will run away from him in needless fear.

White girls, too, while not having witnessed such Asian sexism firsthand, usually will have heard generalized accounts on how subservient Asian women are, and will have heard statements of varying validity, ranging from the fairly sad but true such as "Asian husbands will put their work before you" to the completely invalid in the modern day like "Asian husbands will make you bind your feet". The end result is the same. The modern girl who has her eyes on career and a semi-independent life will be told "Don't marry an Asian - you'll never see anything but the inside of a kitchen for the rest of your life".

This inheritance of stereotypes is insidious in large part because the Asian male can do nothing about it. He can treat all the girls he knows in as gentlemanly a manner as possible (a move likely to put him on the Friends Ladder - see the Ladder Theory in our Links for more), and still the average girl will be told, by the stereotype "Oh sure, he treats you nicely now. Just wait until you have to cook his food and bear his sons." That's not to say that no Asian men today are like that - there are still some that are. It's just that we're all painted with the same negative brush that's really frustrating. This stereotype is like saying that all Southerners must be racist, since not even fifty years ago blacks had to sit in the back of the bus and use separate water fountains - while calling Southerners racist, like calling Asian men sexist, might still be true for some members of the population, it by no means holds true for everybody.

Obviously other people have thought about this matter in general. This passage may or may not be accurate or not in some cases (I really have no experience) but it is something that's there.

The existance of racism in general is interesting. I find much of the recent racism in the US about Hispanic people has many similarities to the prejudices experienced by Irish and Polish imigrants earlier on.

But clearly I'm a horrible racist so pay no attention to me.

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Originally posted by Big Ass Panda:
Anyhow, I still stand that people will listen to reason as long as the situation is handled right and they are exposed to reason.

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but the latter if harmful in ways well beyond the emotional, the latter is just . . . wrong.

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Originally posted by Babylon the Bride:
WTF is so tasteless about what Thirith said? If you mean dragging the Nazis into that, that was your doing, not his.

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Originally posted by Babylon the Bride:
Thirith is a hundred percent correct in his analysis of neonazis and their and the perfect uselessness of exposing them to "reason".