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Guess what's behind door number pi! Member  |
I dont believe in witches either. I understand that people who are pagan or wiccan call themeselves witches but I think its silly to try and draw a parallel to women who were burned as witches historically.
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I dont have anything to add to the witches debate, but I wanted to respond to Maeve and say yes, there is, and I'm glad to see you made it here. Spout away.   ---------------------------- "How do you get from here to the rest of the world?" |
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Has no front teeth Member  |
But he's a troll, so doesn't that mean he lives under...  Ah, to Hell with it. Yes! We shall build a bridge! And use Really Big Pointy Nails! ______________________ “Fandangling across the moony sky, went the Beezee bold as brass, side-saddle she sat, on a big painted bat, shooting moonbeams out of her a(censored)e.†~Joe ________________________ Isn't sanity really just a one trick pony, anyway? I mean, all you get is one trick, rational thinking! But when you're good and crazy…ooh ooh ooh…the sky's the limit! |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member  |
Let us gather villagers with pitchforks and torches o rid ourselves of the troll!
____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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Sittin' at the dock of the Bayeaux Tapestry Member  |
*doesn't see any witches*
la la la la la  "The other night I dreamed that King George VI was dead, and that Helen Hardinge had somehow or other got herself proclaimed Queen of England, and that I was detailed to go and tell her that it wouldn't do at all; and when I did this, all she said was, 'You see, I am really Queen Mary,' and I said, 'Oh very well' - words to that effect, and woke up. Last night I dreamed that Eisenhower came to stay with us, and he insisted on being put to sleep in the dog kennel, with a collar and chain about his neck." - Sir Alan Lascelles, 19 February 1980 |
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knows there is no spoon Member  |
Why don't we do an old medieval witch test on him: tie him to a log and see if he floats.  James Wandering, but not lost. "You are a Knight Errant. All of the fun of rescuing damsels, and none of the paperwork." |
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Resting by the shade of the tumtum tree, yahr! Member  |
Yeah.. I never got that. You're screwed either way. ~Nyssa: Shapeshifter extraordinaire~ ~~~-------~~~ Cthulhu for president~Why vote for the lesser evil? -------~~----- "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone's trying to kill me!" - Weyoun ~~~------~~~ You are an Illuminator. You add color and beauty to anything you can get your hands on: books, tavern signs, clocks, small barnyard animals. While your work goes largely unappreciated, at least it pays the bills. Why, that enormous golden M you painted for the new Scottish restaurant down the street netted you a farthing! |
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knows there is no spoon Member |
Ah, but if you're innocent, then you're a martyr for God, so it's all good.
James Wandering, but not lost. "You are a Knight Errant. All of the fun of rescuing damsels, and none of the paperwork." |
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is hogging the Comfy Chair Member  |
*hides underwater breathing apparatus under black cloak*
*cackles convincingly* *********************** There once was a bard of Hong Kong Who thought limericks were too long. - Gerard Benson. |
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Sittin' at the dock of the Bayeaux Tapestry Member |
*dunks Hive in acid*
Breathe in that! "The other night I dreamed that King George VI was dead, and that Helen Hardinge had somehow or other got herself proclaimed Queen of England, and that I was detailed to go and tell her that it wouldn't do at all; and when I did this, all she said was, 'You see, I am really Queen Mary,' and I said, 'Oh very well' - words to that effect, and woke up. Last night I dreamed that Eisenhower came to stay with us, and he insisted on being put to sleep in the dog kennel, with a collar and chain about his neck." - Sir Alan Lascelles, 19 February 1980 |
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Runs with wolves, yahr! Member  |
That was exactly the point...innocence? oh well, sent you to heaven. Guilt...well, you're dead, out of the way and probably back having a party with good ol' satan.. "Pricking" is good too...they poke you with a needle and if you bleed your a witch... *******  ~You're in the Moulin Rouge babe! Your next month's rent depends on it!~ ~We'd be so lost...if we weren't 'us'"~ ~Fictional History: The works of Shaughnessy E.R. Brookes ~ ~Imagination Press (un)Limited - unique gifts and apparel~ |
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Surprise Inspector Member  |
there was another one, wasn't there? where the "witch" was first made to pace 9 steps down the aisle of the church, this distance was marked, and she was then forced to walk the exact same distance again, only THIS time, with a red hot iron bar held in her hand. her hand was then bandaged up and sealed with wax. if, in 3 days, her hand was healed, then she was innocent. if it was a suppurating mess, then she was a witch and condemned to die.
"Are you a princess? I said & she said I'm much more than a princess, but you don't have a name for it yet here on earth." -Brian Andreas Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon |
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is hogging the Comfy Chair Member |
I'm a witch, doofus - do you really want to be turned into a toad? *********************** There once was a bard of Hong Kong Who thought limericks were too long. - Gerard Benson. |
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Runs with wolves, yahr! Member |
Dang, I missed that one ... Did a paper on all of this not to long ago...saw some ugly stuff in my research... If you were lucky, they'd strangle you before you were burned...if you weren't lucky, the smoke inhalation would kill you slowly as well as the flames... Nasty stuff... ******* ~You're in the Moulin Rouge babe! Your next month's rent depends on it!~ ~We'd be so lost...if we weren't 'us'"~ ~Fictional History: The works of Shaughnessy E.R. Brookes ~ ~Imagination Press (un)Limited - unique gifts and apparel~ |
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has a beaver that talks Member  |
*brings out giant scales*
*inserts duck* Okay, who's first... ****************************************** Me in Rock: This Shirt Is Pants | Mr. Fusion Me in blog: izenmania |
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Resting by the shade of the tumtum tree, yahr! Member |
Yeah, you gotta love that old "justice"... But, weren't witches supposed to float in water? If so, and they can also fly... couldn't they just fly out of the water... ~Nyssa: Shapeshifter extraordinaire~ ~~~-------~~~ Cthulhu for president~Why vote for the lesser evil? -------~~----- "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone's trying to kill me!" - Weyoun ~~~------~~~ You are an Illuminator. You add color and beauty to anything you can get your hands on: books, tavern signs, clocks, small barnyard animals. While your work goes largely unappreciated, at least it pays the bills. Why, that enormous golden M you painted for the new Scottish restaurant down the street netted you a farthing! |
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knows there is no spoon Member |
Stop using that damn heathen logic! And I never did put together why it was that if all these people being put to death had fantastic powers due to an alliance with Satan himself, not a single one ever could manage to save their life from some simple ropes and fire. Odd, isn't it? James Wandering, but not lost. "You are a Knight Errant. All of the fun of rescuing damsels, and none of the paperwork." |
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Resting by the shade of the tumtum tree, yahr! Member |
Yay I'm a heathen! Yeah... it does seem odd that they devised all these things... "and if you live, you're witch!" Well, great... so what do you do with the witch after that? I guess they're logic was something like "Well, either we prove you're a witch and you fly off... or you're dead... either way we won't have to deal with you anymore" ~Nyssa: Shapeshifter extraordinaire~ ~~~-------~~~ Cthulhu for president~Why vote for the lesser evil? -------~~----- "Of course I'm paranoid, everyone's trying to kill me!" - Weyoun ~~~------~~~ You are an Illuminator. You add color and beauty to anything you can get your hands on: books, tavern signs, clocks, small barnyard animals. While your work goes largely unappreciated, at least it pays the bills. Why, that enormous golden M you painted for the new Scottish restaurant down the street netted you a farthing! |
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Runs with wolves, yahr! Member |
No one said that people were supposed to be logical
******* ~You're in the Moulin Rouge babe! Your next month's rent depends on it!~ ~We'd be so lost...if we weren't 'us'"~ ~Fictional History: The works of Shaughnessy E.R. Brookes ~ ~Imagination Press (un)Limited - unique gifts and apparel~ |
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has no member title Member  |
Nyssa, I think you need to consider the attitude at the time: Dying and going to heaven was the reward.
It was what you looked forward to, the final bombastic recompense for all that mediaeval hardship. So it wouldn't have been "burn as a witch" or "drown as an innocent" but: "burn as a witch and continue burning in hell" or "get what you always wanted: free ticket to heaven". __ The brickchewing, camera flaunting restroom saint formerly known as Babylon the Bride |
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