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With the current scandal about horse meat in frozen burgers and lasagnes, the one thing that's surprised me is that eating horse seems to be such a massive taboo in the UK. I absolutely understand that people want to be able to trust the list of ingredients of the stuff they buy - but the tone of much of the discussion seems to be, "Eating horse? How barbaric!"

Can anyone explain this to me? Where does this big cultural taboo come from? It mainly strikes me as odd because I don't see any categorical difference between eating horse or beef or pork. Admittedly, I wouldn't be interested in eating dog or cat, for cultural reasons, but it's not as if I consider it morally reprehensible just because I happen to have had several cats myself.

On a side note: since we've got people here from around the world, do your cultures have any taboos about what animals can and can't be eaten ((beyond the well-known ones, e.g. beef in Hinduism or pork in Judaism)?


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I don't mind eating horse - I'm not a vegetarian, and I've knowingly eaten donkey. But the current situation is a problem, not because it's horse, but because it may be knackered old domestic horse stuffed full of dodgy drugs and butchered and sold in unsanitary conditions by criminal gangs.

I think I'd feel squicky at eating a carnivore. Have absolutely no idea why.


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But the current situation is a problem, not because it's horse, but because it may be knackered old domestic horse stuffed full of dodgy drugs and butchered and sold in unsanitary conditions by criminal gangs.

I agree that that's part of the problem - but the element of "It's horse, you animals!" is definitely there in how papers (and people) talk about it, especially in the UK.


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Can anyone explain this to me? Where does this big cultural taboo come from? It mainly strikes me as odd because I don't see any categorical difference between eating horse or beef or pork.
As far as I have any insight, I believe it to be one of the ways we distinguish ourselves from contintental Europe, especially the french. Never underestimate how many of Britain's phobias and biases come from an 'us vs them' mentality.


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it's a new cultural taboo anyway. if you listen to any 2 episodes of Round The Horne from the 60's, at least one of them will contain a reference to the Horsemeat Shop in the Balls Pond Road, in London. a real actual thing. so only 50 years ago there were specialist butchers for horsemeat for human consumption.


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I've had horse meat, and there's an upscale supermarket I often shop at that sells horse sausages and burgers, so it's not unheard of here. My grandpa was the district vet and used to inspect slaughtered horses and any large game the local hunters shot (hunting is a strictly regulated affair in Germany) for food safety, so we had access to some meats not commonly found at your local butcher's. I quite like it, it's somewhere between really lean beef and venison. Most Germans would probably not eat it, though. It's not about "that's what those strange people over there eat" here, more "aww, the poor pretty horsey".

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I think I'd feel squicky at eating a carnivore. Have absolutely no idea why.

My personal theory: we don't eat carnivores (except for fish, strangely) because they can carry more diseases and parasites than herbivores. By eating other animals, they get whatever their prey might have carried on top of their own nasty surprises. Even early humans ate more herbivores than carnivores, so by now it's almost an inbred cautionary device.
 
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I've eaten lamb, venison, moose, cow, and bear - all knowingly.
I can't see a problem with eating horse and I'd imagine it would be rather like moose.
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knackered old domestic horse stuffed full of dodgy drugs and butchered and sold in unsanitary conditions by criminal gangs.

No thanks.


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On principle I have nothing against eating a horse as long as it was slaughtered humanely and whatnot. It just never seemed very appealing. I think part of the thing is when I think horses I think race horses. And some old race horse probably would make for terrible meat.

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I think I'd feel squicky at eating a carnivore. Have absolutely no idea why.


The closest I ever got to eating a land carnivore was bear meat, but they're mostly omnivorous. Oh, and gator... they're sort of... land animals. Ceridwen has a point though, I mean you're supposed to limit how much carnivorous fish you eat, because they just sort of collect all the nasty stuff like mercury. Plus evolutionary, herbivores are just generally easier to eat. They sit around in big groups and eat grass all day, they don't have big teeth and claws to fight back with... Plus carnivores mostly wouldn't taste good (well, with regards to land dwelling things) since they're always working. The meat would probably be stringy and and certainly not as much fat as the average herbivore.


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It is all about the culture and the habitat in which each and everyone is brought up,It doesn't matter what you eat but you should respect everyone's religion..
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It is all about the culture and the habitat in which each and everyone is brought up,It doesn't matter what you eat but you should respect everyone's religion..
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The only horse I eat is unicorn. It's an aphrodisiac you know. Makes you horny.
Get it?
Cause it's got a horn you see.


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