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Originally posted by Matt Cable:
Those pics are priceless.

I could hardly stop laughing. I keep going back to get a fresh shot.

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Originally posted by Weeble:
I'm not kidding. I need to know what the he%% McCain was doing in that picture. It- it- it frightens me.

Here Weeble. I doubt that you will be frightened any less however.

is it just me that sort of fancies obama?

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Originally posted by Psi:

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Originally posted by Matt Cable:
Those pics are priceless.

I could hardly stop laughing. I keep going back to get a fresh shot.

Worth a thousand words...

It's the gift that keeps on giving. It almost looks like he's dancing the robot. Domo arigato, anyone?

Anyone remember when Howard Dean made that squealy noise and then totally lost everything - I hope that works out with this picture.

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Originally posted by Weeble:
I'm not kidding. I need to know what the he%% McCain was doing in that picture. It- it- it frightens me.

After the debate he walked off in the wrong direction at first and then turned on his heel. Lord knows how he managed to produce that particular expression doing it.

The beauty of it is, he probably only looked like that for one second - but one second and a good still was all it took for him to look like a complete ass.

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Originally posted by Nel Gurgle:
Here Weeble. I doubt that you will be frightened any less however.

I have no idea if it was my computer or the website which did this, but when I clicked the link it opened up about 40 windows and crashed my computer. (Excellent picture, though!)

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Originally posted by Nel Gurgle:

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Originally posted by Weeble:
I'm not kidding. I need to know what the he%% McCain was doing in that picture. It- it- it frightens me.

Here Weeble. I doubt that you will be frightened any less however.

I... I...

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Golly gee, I do so want someone in the White House who maintains his composure so well, how very professional. My respect for him has skyrocketed. Not.

Report from the planet Zarg:

I've finally seen the debate, which I caught by chance on Newsnight just now.

Bear in mind I hardly ever watch broadcast tv - only DVDs. I almost never watch tv news, and get my news fix from a constant diet of Radio 4, supported by the internet (especially the BBC and a bunch of blogs) and occasionally print. So I have heard their voices, read their speeches, and so on, but this is the first time I have actually seen Obama and McCain in motion together, so to speak.

My first visual impressions (ie not an assessment of politics, which I already have):

Obama: keeps his cool. Younger than I expected (which doesn't come through as strongly in photos), and a deep voice (and I don't know why I didn't pick up on that on the radio).

McCain: I see what you mean about the walnuts. Uses his big eyes to indicate innocent honesty much like this. Utterly fucking punchable.

That is all. Zarg out.


ETA: I realised that I've seen a lot of Palin-in-motion, mainly because I've watched a lot of the Palin-tanking-it's-freaking-hilarious-also-terrifying videos on the net. I have You betcha! as a semi-permanent earworm.

The Q. about V.P. I thought was not handled right by B.O., and the opening of she's CAPABLE was just a brain fart by B.O.. But discussing it further I changed course 50%.
To even challenge Palin or compare her to Biden would be LIFTING her to a plateau she should not be on. It would turn her into a concern....if only he left out the CAPABLE part and went on ,it could be paraphrased as 'Sarah who? Look man I'm trying to be the prez. Mr. Moderater ,you sir are not a serious guy!!'

Joe the plumber to me was a metaphor for the real estate situation,and not a proper tool for J.M..
Look man we all want to be self-employed it's part of the american dream. But if you can't afford it you can't afford it. This biz survived the times from the sound of it . Both presedential hopefuls want to put forth a plan to help in their own way. If you're griping about not being able to afford it then guess what...get out of the way for someone else that want's to buy it .

The disscusion about supreme court spots was just plain hypercritical of J.M.
Are you telling me he picked Palin because she was more qualifyed rather than she just happened to be a cookie cutter image of himself with certain issues.C'mon that was just poor pacement of the questions.Ask the supreme court spot question first then the V.P. question.To be fair B.O. came a little closer to telling the truth on his choice by saying 'whom ever has a grasp on the times' or something or other close to this.

let's face it B.O. looked like a prez.
J.M. looked like a ferret that usually heads committes into steroids in baseball.

It's a no brainer but hey we're living in america B.O.,' anything can happen in a cartoon'(Heckle and Jeckle).

but seriously, funny images to the side the healthcare is going to take a backseat the economy is just to fragile and medical lobbyist are lined with cash.The economy is a god send to the next prez.,it's better than a war and if handled right will be their ticket to a second term. I believe Clinton balancing the budget single handily gave him his second term.

I liked his attitude towards trades and J.M. didn't help himself on his relentless want to stay the course but oh yeah change i meant change.
B.O. keeps hitting that energy(drilling at home) ball out of the park. And the J.M. bullpen is a ghost town.

I am looking foward to the T.V. spots B.O. secured but shudder to think what this means to the future. I know Nixon was the first and there has been alot of time inbetween but it is going to be a new staple.

I like France's laws on equal face time on T.V. and the time is pre-set by law.

I think that no one noticed something that Mccain said about teaching...that people who have served in the armed forces should be able to go onto teaching without getting the proper teaching credentials...did I hear this wrong...If I didn't that means that by going out an fighting a war, it automatically makes you a teacher?

The other day I was in a music store, I turned around and almost ran into a life size cut out picture of Mccain...Honestly, I almost screamed out of absolute terror a the sight of those dark snake like eyes! Obama's was just around the corner from there as well but I started giggling at myself that Mccain's image could scare me that much.

Does Mccain not realize that there are a lot more special need kids other than Autistic kids? And does anyone realize that pro-choice equally fights for people to have the right to give birth to their children! (I was fired because I refused to have an abortion. Teachers have been fired when they had children out of wedlock). I am not bring this up to debate this but some people over look this side of pro-choice. (choice has multiple sides!)

YES.

I was screaming at the radio at that point. I'm a teacher's daughter. I have views on this sort of stupidity.

I flipped out on the abortion stuff fairly continuously. And the World Service announcer kept talking over the debate so didn't get to hear all of it. But I doubt he does. I really doubt he has the concept in his worldview.

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The Q. about V.P. I thought was not handled right by B.O., and the opening of she's CAPABLE was just a brain fart by B.O.. But discussing it further I changed course 50%.
To even challenge Palin or compare her to Biden would be LIFTING her to a plateau she should not be on. It would turn her into a concern....if only he left out the CAPABLE part and went on ,it could be paraphrased as 'Sarah who? Look man I'm trying to be the prez. Mr. Moderater ,you sir are not a serious guy!!'

He called her a "capable...politician." And I think he meant that in the sneering-est sense of the term. And he's right: she's verrry good at working the political system for self-promotion (Considering her educational background and the fact that she went from mayor of a teensy town to Governor of Alaska...that takes political savvy). I think his response was well thought out--- he didn't want to create more discussion on someone who didn't deserve the attention.

Regarding McCain's use of the term "Pro-abortion"...I was yelling at the TV as well. That made me incredibly angry that he pigeonholed a huge chunk of the country in a category that is outrageously off-target. BIG mistake.

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Originally posted by Al-Aura: The Anti-Maverick:


Regarding McCain's use of the term "Pro-abortion"...I was yelling at the TV as well. That made me incredibly angry that he pigeonholed a huge chunk of the country in a category that is outrageously off-target. BIG mistake.

I also hate the term Pro Life. I have been trying to sell these Pro Death bumper stickers but they are not catching on.

There are so many people who see abortion as a complicated subject that the government should not be presiding over. Not to be presumptuous but I doubt there are many people who think that abortion is a wonderful thing. I think the real argument is whether it is something the government should have a say or not.
*end tangent*

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Originally posted by Lan Martak:
There are so many people who see abortion as a complicated subject that the government should not be presiding over. Not to be presumptuous but I doubt there are many people who think that abortion is a wonderful thing. I think the real argument is whether it is something the government should have a say or not.
*end tangent*

not to open the debate, but i just wanted to note that i *do* think abortion is a fantastic thing. i have a friend who had one, and it saved her life, and she got to go on to be a mom to her two other kids.

this is not a "tragedy" (*coff*, Obama, *glare*), this is a miracle of modern science.

i get what you're saying, but what lots of people, politicians in particular, tend to forget is that life is more varied than legislation. which is to say i'd rather trust a medical professional to make the decision. law makers need to butt out.

(so quoth the Canadian, who is stupidly proud that her country has no laws around abortion. because if it had a ban on late term abortion, even with a "health" of the woman exception [fuck you, McCain, and your asshole air quotes], she might have one less friend, and two orphaned kids in her life)

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Originally posted by Silverfoot:
[fuck you, McCain, and your asshole air quotes]

*applauds*

*wild applause for the rest of Silver's post, too*

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Originally posted by lilith42:
I think that no one noticed something that Mccain said about teaching...that people who have served in the armed forces should be able to go onto teaching without getting the proper teaching credentials...did I hear this wrong...If I didn't that means that by going out an fighting a war, it automatically makes you a teacher?

I heard that too. He said we need higher standards for teachers and get rid of the one who don't cut it. In the same fucking breath, he says he would eliminate the qualification/certification hurdles so military could become teachers.

How do you propose to have higher standards if you don't screen teachers soldiers with qualification tests or certifications before they teach? You can't have both McCain.

Two unrelated points:

Yes, McCain lost a lot of women's votes with the air-quotes.

The self-contradictions in the McCain campaign are many.
"Get government off the people's backs"--"clean up the mess on Wall Street"
"Higher standards for teachers"--"put soldiers in classrooms"

The problem with teaching is that most people who are highly qualified and skilled to do it, are also qualified and skilled to do other things that pay double or better the salary. And since getting a Master's degree (the new expectation for a qualified teacher) is likely to leave one with $25,000+ of debt, you couldn't become a teacher even if you wanted to.
In fact, in my Mom's school, they lost one of their better new faculty when he enlisted to pay off his student debt.

I can't access YouTube or I'd like to to Taylor Mali's fucking brilliant spoken word piece, "What Do You Do?"

"I have a rule about opinions and ass-kickings: If you ask for one, I have to give it to you."

I will tonight.

I'm reading the transcripts - I can't stand watching American politicians debate, sorry, it irks me how how horribly they do it - and am highlighting the contradictions on both sides of the aisle. Currently weighted towards McCain, but I'm only a few pages in.