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Eew.

Cool! Uh, I mean, um... ew?

Well, at least they removed it before they found out the embryo was the evil twin that would make her black out and kill people.

If your conjoined twin doesn't have a brain, do you have to still pay double admission?

Went fossil hunting two weeks ago and had my best trip to Paulding, OH. 6 trilobites in total including a perfect prone (flat) one and a rare double! I've been cleaning them to destress from work.

Before:


After:


Here's the double I'm still cleaning:

I don't really know much about fossils, but that looks like a a nice job cleaning it. The details really show through afterwards.

good sense 1 - catholics 0 thank goodness!

wow yes nice job Matt

I would never have the patience to do that!

Also from Smaaugs link:

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"In embryos, we do have the genetic make up of a complete human being and we could not and should not be spliced together with the animal kingdom."

But we are the animal kingdom, people confuse me sometimes, all thy want is to be able to use it as a duplication system from what I've read, a PCR for stem cells. *sigh* why do people continue to see cells as humans?

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Originally posted by halucinagenia:
wow yes nice job Matt

I would never have the patience to do that!

Thankies. You do need patience. I spent probably 4-5 hours cleaning that first one. The double has a lot of pyrite which is hard to clean. I've spent about 4 hours on it and almost have one of the two cleaned.

Matt - that's just excellent! Dev had a fossil book out of the library last week and had trouble pronouncing trilobite and I told him that you collect those - he remembered cleaning his fossils.

I'm glad I could share that with him. Tell him it's a "three lobed bug" Tri-lob-ite

I wish I had taken pictures. He looked so cute out in driveway, hunched over, swishing the stuff around.

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Originally posted by Smaug:
good sense 1 - catholics 0 thank goodness!

I am really getting sick of people screaming unethical at scientists trying to cure diseases/heal the injured. I think its far more unethical to allow a person to suffer with alzheimers or be a paraplegic when there is a chance we can help them by doing this research.

It does not harm anyone and is not creating 'monsters' like these asshats keep saying.

I'm not entirely a fan of this not for religious reasons but for simple ethical concerns - just because the scientific envelope can be pushed so far doesn't say that it ought to be - but I admit I'm not well-versed on the issue, so it remains in the same category as Diet Twinkies: I understand that it exists, that it makes my skin crawl and that I can't yet articulate why.

I'm glad there wasn't anything there about the Church speaking out against saviour siblings. It would be a bitingly cruel irony that an institution that forbids contraceptive care so that it numbers might increase speaking out against a secular practice that seeks to use reproduction for temporal gain.

i'm all for pushing scientific bounderies.

if we didn't push past what we thought was comfortable we'd still all be sitting around in caves....

i remember reading a book on scientific progress and discoveries which included the uproar against the first vaccines...people at the time thought that was an 'uncomfortable idea' that 'played god' etc, and so on and so forth. *hugs her vaccines* and we certainly wouldn't have tried to fly.

In my opinion boundaries are there to be pushed.

That can land you with a vaccine. That can also land you with an a-bomb. It's a double-edged thingummy.

And, no, that's not a false comparison. The destructive possibility of fission was around before the military caught wind of it, they just took advantage of an opportunity to fund useful science, and I don't think they'd hesitate for a second if they thought genetics could be pushed to their advantage as well.

they already know about the capacities for genetics fortunately none of the superviruses breed by the russians/americans/and every other man with a lab have been utilised in a warfare situation, but they haven't worked out how to target just one countries people yet. Hopefully they never do humans are too genetically similar, which makes that difficult.

But yeah just because some humans are stupid and use discoveries to advance warfare systems doesn't mean that the scientists were wrong to go there.

I think Ernest Rutherford was a brilliant individual and the advantages of his research still outweigh the negative aspects certain countries have utilised for their own end. Might I add there is only one country that has ever deployed that weapon, and it sure as hell wasn't Rutherford's own.

That argument is like telling someone not to sharpen his pencil because sharp objects can put someone's eye out.

ETA: Yes, I'm exaggerating, but the point remains (er... so to speak). The same technologies can be applied for both constructive and destructive things. We should guard against the latter, but we also need to push the former.

your statement is much better than mine CD

I get so muddled when trying to explain things nowadays.

I think humans have learned from our mistakes there are so many checks in place on new research etc.

You have to get ethics commitee approval to use rats in research now, you used to be able to just drag in children off the street!

 yes i am joking