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December 03, 2010, 06:12 AM
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Science lounge
Closely related (and funny...)


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December 03, 2010, 06:30 AM
Ceridwen
Ha! Smile Brilliant.
December 04, 2010, 01:38 AM
Matt Cable
I get to visit Messel today! Oil shale fossils and my company paid for my trip. (of course I had to sit through 3 days of management meetings)


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December 04, 2010, 06:44 AM
Maeve
yay! It's redundant to tell you to have fun, but I will anyway Smile


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December 04, 2010, 08:22 AM
The Boy™ PhD
Question about the arsenic-based bacterium. Does it find phosphorus a deadly toxin? Because, if it did, that would suck since that shit is everywhere.


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December 04, 2010, 08:24 AM
Caspian
Nope. In fact it thrives better with phosphorus than it does with arsenic. So "arsenic-based" is not really accurate. It's just capable of surviving on arsenic, which is a first.

ETA: My source on that.


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December 04, 2010, 08:53 AM
halucinagenia
A pretty basic breakdown of the science is here

And to be fair it isn't really a huge surprise but nice to have been established in a peer reviewed paper.

Extremophiles are notoriously hard to culture by the way, they must have selected that lake as the sampling area due to it's relatively normal temperature. Alkali environments are commonly found in geothermal regions and teem with microbes that are capable of surviving in an environment with high levels of arsenic. It's just that these microbes are almost impossible to culture in the lab and are usually identified by DNA.


December 04, 2010, 08:57 AM
halucinagenia
Thats a pretty well rounded article Caspian, thanks for the link!


December 04, 2010, 10:00 AM
Dweller in Darkness
No Exactly Rocket Science is one of my favourite science blogs, next to Bad Astronomy on the same site.


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December 08, 2010, 12:16 PM
Dweller in Darkness
Well, looks like the paper's more than a little dodgy, which is a bit of a shame. Quite a few scientists seem to be dogpiling it and making some rather good points about the methology and conclusions of the study.


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December 08, 2010, 12:49 PM
The Boy™ PhD
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Originally posted by Dweller in Darkness:
Well, looks like the paper's more than a little dodgy, which is a bit of a shame. Quite a few scientists seem to be dogpiling it and making some rather good points about the methology and conclusions of the study.


SCIENCE!!! It works, bitches!


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December 08, 2010, 03:34 PM
Dweller in Darkness
This got a lot of attention in the popular science blogosphere and now some of the people who originally posted, "Isn't this cool?" are going back and apologizing while others who were more cautious are posting up details as they find them. It's kind of fun to watch, science in action.


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December 08, 2010, 04:08 PM
halucinagenia
there have been complaints regarding scientific blog commentators on the article, requesting that only formal letters and reviews published in subsequent journals should be used to question the original paper.

It's kinda funny it's like science hits the real world. And oddly two-faced given the media buildup prior to the release of this paper


December 08, 2010, 04:45 PM
Dweller in Darkness
Yeah, I heard Carl Zimmer got some serious flak from the paper's writers for his criticism.


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December 08, 2010, 05:00 PM
Mystery Guest
Science proves sexy cars are sexy.
Proof.


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January 13, 2011, 08:12 AM
Mischief the Polarbear
Thunderstorms create antimatter????

seriously.


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January 13, 2011, 08:47 AM
Furious
quote:
Originally posted by Mischief the Polarbear:
Thunderstorms create antimatter????

seriously.


quote:
... In pair production, a gamma ray passing through the electron shell of an atom transforms into two particles: an electron and its antimatter opposite, a positron.


Energy --> Matter, or why getting hit with the wrong EMF radiation causes side effects.


January 13, 2011, 03:13 PM
Big Flinchy!
Tiny lasers


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January 14, 2011, 08:20 AM
Big Flinchy!
Drunk scientists make superconductors superconductier with booze.


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January 15, 2011, 12:30 AM
Smaug
non-newtonain fluid on a speaker cone


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