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Closely related (and funny...)


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Ha! Smile Brilliant.
 
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I get to visit Messel today! Oil shale fossils and my company paid for my trip. (of course I had to sit through 3 days of management meetings)


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yay! It's redundant to tell you to have fun, but I will anyway Smile


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Question about the arsenic-based bacterium. Does it find phosphorus a deadly toxin? Because, if it did, that would suck since that shit is everywhere.


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Nope. In fact it thrives better with phosphorus than it does with arsenic. So "arsenic-based" is not really accurate. It's just capable of surviving on arsenic, which is a first.

ETA: My source on that.


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A pretty basic breakdown of the science is here

And to be fair it isn't really a huge surprise but nice to have been established in a peer reviewed paper.

Extremophiles are notoriously hard to culture by the way, they must have selected that lake as the sampling area due to it's relatively normal temperature. Alkali environments are commonly found in geothermal regions and teem with microbes that are capable of surviving in an environment with high levels of arsenic. It's just that these microbes are almost impossible to culture in the lab and are usually identified by DNA.
 
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Thats a pretty well rounded article Caspian, thanks for the link!
 
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No Exactly Rocket Science is one of my favourite science blogs, next to Bad Astronomy on the same site.


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Well, looks like the paper's more than a little dodgy, which is a bit of a shame. Quite a few scientists seem to be dogpiling it and making some rather good points about the methology and conclusions of the study.


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Well, looks like the paper's more than a little dodgy, which is a bit of a shame. Quite a few scientists seem to be dogpiling it and making some rather good points about the methology and conclusions of the study.


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This got a lot of attention in the popular science blogosphere and now some of the people who originally posted, "Isn't this cool?" are going back and apologizing while others who were more cautious are posting up details as they find them. It's kind of fun to watch, science in action.


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there have been complaints regarding scientific blog commentators on the article, requesting that only formal letters and reviews published in subsequent journals should be used to question the original paper.

It's kinda funny it's like science hits the real world. And oddly two-faced given the media buildup prior to the release of this paper
 
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Yeah, I heard Carl Zimmer got some serious flak from the paper's writers for his criticism.


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Science proves sexy cars are sexy.
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Thunderstorms create antimatter????

seriously.


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Thunderstorms create antimatter????

seriously.


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... In pair production, a gamma ray passing through the electron shell of an atom transforms into two particles: an electron and its antimatter opposite, a positron.


Energy --> Matter, or why getting hit with the wrong EMF radiation causes side effects.

 
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Tiny lasers


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