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Surprise Inspector Member  |
the system here, at least in primary schools, is that you have a daily "collective worship" thing, AND that when you have RE classes, 51% of more of them are about christianity. even in the NON-faith schools. i have personal objections to this. "Are you a princess? I said & she said I'm much more than a princess, but you don't have a name for it yet here on earth." -Brian Andreas Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon |
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has been eaten by a grue. Member |
my objections are somewhat less personal, but I has them.
~ We're just babies making up a game, if you're right. But...babies playing a game can make a play-world which licks your real world hollow. That's why I'm going to stand by the play-world. ~ Elite Special Force Procrastinator, trained in High Arts of Extended Coffee Breaks and Master Linguist of the Water Cooler Conversation |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member  |
I did not know that!  Not that it converts people or anything, after all, the entire 9% of UK church goers can't be RE teaches  ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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Goofy Beast Member  |
I'd have personal objections to this, and I'm sort of a believer. |
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Administrator/Colporteur Member  |
Ditto, and I'm paying to send my son to a Christian school. I know that he's getting a Christian-focussed religious education, so I can't really object, but having it forced on you? That's just odd. Of course, I don't know what UK RE actually looks like. I went to a Christian college and in some of the Bible courses I was in I really had to wonder if the profs were just making it up as they went along.
__________ AJGraeme "You see, I have a policy about honesty and ass-kicking: if you ask for it, I have to let you have it." -Taylor Mali "I am a sexy, shoeless god of war." -Belkar |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member |
I'd be surprised if most RE classes ever pick up a bible, but there's a sort of default focus on Christianity that bothers me - if it's in school, it should be like any other academic subject. In the UK (I don't know enough about other countries) the focus in most subjects is academic and professional - eg. History is taught using primary sources, detecting bias etc. Training to be a historian. If you follow a subject from primary to sixth form it's gearing up for a degree in it. But RE in most of school is nothing like what you'd study at univeristy, although the GCSE (exams age 16) is more so. For example a GCSE question might ask what the major religions' stance would be on abortion or euthanasia. Mind you I got a D for that, so I may not be qualified to comment
What possible reason can they have for holding onto this? Curiosity - Do other countries have morning assembly at all, or is it just classes? I wonder if we only have it becuse of the 'act of worship' thing. ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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The Doughmaster Member  |
As far as my own experience, none of my schools had a morning assembly. There were morning announcements every day over the loudspeaker that included the Pledge of Allegiance, but that's about it.
~ Non-Mod-Amy, aka Amy of the Lost Ark You are a Bookholder. To prompt, or...LINE! (not to prompt) --not to prompt. That is the question. Whether t'is nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of a bad memory, or to take arms against a sea of textual deviations, and...LINE! (by opposing) --by opposing them...LINE! (end) --end...LINE! (them) --end them...LINE! (to prompt, to correct; no more; and by a correction to say we end the heart-ache of a really terrible performance) You didn't have to give me the whole thing! I know it! |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member |
we do not have loud speakers
everytime I meet my two little cousins I ask them what 'allegence' means, and the 7-year-old Isla usually launches straight into the pledge. That's her definition  ETA: they're American, not just into memorising stuff! ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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Wigber Member  |
i know the beginning of the Pledge of Allegiance...
<--is not American i think i know most of the words to the Star Spangled Banner too. but Twi has me beat: he's memorized "O Canada"! ____________________________ Future First Lady of Cyberspace Green Robot World the Canadian half of Minobot! |
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The Doughmaster Member |
Well, in her defence, she IS only 7! I don't think I knew what the word meant at that age, either.
~ Non-Mod-Amy, aka Amy of the Lost Ark You are a Bookholder. To prompt, or...LINE! (not to prompt) --not to prompt. That is the question. Whether t'is nobler to suffer the slings and arrows of a bad memory, or to take arms against a sea of textual deviations, and...LINE! (by opposing) --by opposing them...LINE! (end) --end...LINE! (them) --end them...LINE! (to prompt, to correct; no more; and by a correction to say we end the heart-ache of a really terrible performance) You didn't have to give me the whole thing! I know it! |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member |
Well, that is kinda my point - they shouldn't be making her repeat stuff every day if she has no idea what she's talking about. However as she's blatently going to be the first prom-queen in the family (no prom-queens here!) she might as well fit in  (I'm holding out for her going eco-warrior at 15, but she's pretty into the pretty)Man, I want smaller relatives who don't live in other countries  ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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is hogging the Comfy Chair Member  |
I'm fairly sure that the assemblies in kidlet's school have no religious content at all.
*********************** There once was a bard of Hong Kong Who thought limericks were too long. - Gerard Benson. |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member |
most don't - no one's gonna enforce it. Do a play about Johnny Appleseed, everyone's happy.
____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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badger, yahr, badger, escher Member ![Picture of nonsleeper[chickie]](http://xb9.xanga.com/d2ea95215753573894951/t49825261.jpg "Picture of nonsleeper[chickie]") |
My experiences were like what TGAmy says. When we got to the level that we were no longer in one classroom all day (roughly age 11 and up), we started out with homeroom or supervision, where the teacher called roll then the Pledge of Allegiance and morning announcements were made over the speakers. Some years/schools, there's also been a quiet time for reading or whatever, which could have been used for individual quiet prayer if wished but no one could suggest that. (I remember in one high school I attended, in the 90s, two students were allowed to present the morning announcements with their own show, which they optomistically called Radio Free [school's name]. One of those guys is now the local weatherman on TV. But anyway . . . . ) __________________________________ Never do anything you wouldn't want to explain to the paramedics.  |
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Wigber Member  |
Mine did. I can still smell the salt tang of our admixed sweat as we assembled on the parade square, supple backs braced straight and chinless bowl-coiffed heads held stiffly against the burning sunrise as Chaplain intoned the oh-so-holy opening notes of the Garn Foggia Igne to the accompaniment of the Massed Urchins of Quofo while the Provost flailed us with a Dane's whithered uterus on a rattan pole as we took the Blood and Torte of Ouel into our parched mouths and murmured Ranxerox, Ranxerox, RANXEROX! before pumping our cloven fists in the air thrice and receiving the Blessing of Urine and finally being dismissed to class. First period was generally Alien Dissection 1.1. I hated skoo'.  |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member |
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We once did a play about peer pressure? (peer pressure is wrong, kids) ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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has been eaten by a grue. Member |
this is completely OT, but, when I started college, they subjected us to a presentation wherein two of the school nurses dressed up as part of their presentation.
their presentation on safe sex. one of them was a cock and balls. the other was a vagina. ~ We're just babies making up a game, if you're right. But...babies playing a game can make a play-world which licks your real world hollow. That's why I'm going to stand by the play-world. ~ Elite Special Force Procrastinator, trained in High Arts of Extended Coffee Breaks and Master Linguist of the Water Cooler Conversation |
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Surprise Inspector Member |
did the play about peer pressure involve a kid who climbed a pylon after a frisbee and died? if so, we did that one too.
"Are you a princess? I said & she said I'm much more than a princess, but you don't have a name for it yet here on earth." -Brian Andreas Limertilly: A pagan deity forgotten by man and therefore banished to the realms of memory and darkness now remembered by a young girl in downtown L.A. in the form of a dream and therefore freed to reap your revenge on the people who discarded you, thereby forcing said girl to learn to use her innate yet awesome powers as a soothsayer to gather forces of the Earth to defy you and once more banish you to your cold, cold prisoooooon |
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rodentia extraordinarinus Member |
Apathy, that's... that's disturbing!
Limer, we didn't do that as a play, but there was a video on elctricity safely where that happened to a kid. His trousers caught fire! And ther was another kid who started a fire by trowing a chain over some powerlines, and then all the streetlights went out so his sister was killed by a car. We had to make up our plays, and they were consiquently awful. The highlight of the bullying one was people whispering "gossip! gossip! gossip!" for about 45 minutes. ____________________________________________________ tiny ball of rage. hilarious, condensed rage - Snazz I never really lost my virginity... it just sort of eventually wore off - Chris Addison Um... I'm thinking that a lot of my internal conflict and malaise comes from the tension between the life I ACTUALLY want to live, and the stories I'd love to be able to tell? - T-Rex, qwantz.com |
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has been eaten by a grue. Member |
oh, yes. it was excruciating. and I was a naive little 16-year-old, and it took me a minute to figure out why that lady had huge balloons stuck to her feet. *facepalm* ~ We're just babies making up a game, if you're right. But...babies playing a game can make a play-world which licks your real world hollow. That's why I'm going to stand by the play-world. ~ Elite Special Force Procrastinator, trained in High Arts of Extended Coffee Breaks and Master Linguist of the Water Cooler Conversation |
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