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Maevers, how is your school district with testing for learning differences/disabilities? That's about the age when some of Son+'s learning problems started becoming apparent. One of his teachers had some experience with kids with processing problems and gave us a place to start....and thank God for that.


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He seems to do fair (not outstanding, but he's not in the Not Comprehending category) in the Reading Comprehension section. It seems to be simply verbal commands. And he doesn't always do it, just enough to notice.

I'm not really sure how well/poor the school district is with such things, I don't know anyone else with kids in any other classes.

I tend to think it's a bit of Spaceman Spiff Syndrome Smile (mixed in with Mum'll get frustrated and do it for me and yes, I do that, which is my problem)


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when I was a kid I got sent for all sorts of hearing tests after (as an excuse) saying I couldn't hear my swimming teacher giving us instructions. Everyone kept saying in Very Serious Voices "Can you really not hear him?" so I was too scared to say I just wasn't ever paying attention Razz


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Domi I did that too! They asked me in serious voices too! (but this was my parents not a swimming instructor) I was too busy with my dreaming to listen to mundane parent things!

Luck Maeve with sorting things. x


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I think it's also inherited, I know I need very specific instructions and then inevitably I still mess it up. So, maybe it's just how I give directions.


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Simon's testing scores were high enough that we got a letter requesting he be tested for the gifted program!


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Brilliant!


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Very cool! Ideal next step for a future leader of the world. I mean, leader in the world. Not of the world. Because that would be megalomaniacal.


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Anyone have suggestions for how to get a toddler to stop shrieking like a banshee giving alot of trouble when its bedtime?

She used to be happy to go to bed if she is tired, but all the sudden she has a freak-out every time. Saturday night, she had fallen asleep under the gaming table but when her dad tried to put her to bed, she gave the most irritating screaming tantrum that lasted for nearly two hours operatic fit in her life. And she's done it twice since then.


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Are there monsters under the bed or in the closet?


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Here's what a friend of my family taught me when I had to baby sit her son who had the same problem; talk or sing in a calm voice to the kid while rubbing their back. If that fails hold the kid and walk around untill they calm down.
I hope this helps.


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Is anyone familiar with the Slosson IQ Test? I can't find anything online to tell me about a score range, or what a particular score might mean. M had some sort of screening done, and I'm trying to get a relative sense of her score.

Aside from that, anyone have any perspective on the use of this or other tests/screenings on entrance to 'gifted' programs or identifying remedial needs (poorly phrased, not sure of how to say it)? No doubt at this age (Kindergarten) results can change (higher OR lower) as a child develops, right?


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I'm not convinced that IQ tests of any sort are meaningful for children.

The UK guidelines for assessing eligibility for the gifted and talented programme (which is supposed to identify the top 5% of children who exhibit actual or potential high abilities) is here. IQ tests don't seem to be in it at all.

Kidlet, at 7, has been assigned by the school to the YG&T programme for both maths and literacy - in practice, it just means a few kids in each year get taught maths and literacy separately from the others to stop them getting bored. The programme seems to be well integrated with the rest of the school, and the kids don't think it's anything special.

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my viewpoint on IQ tests is that they do nothing to assess a person's intelligence - they are merely tools that show how well a person does IQ tests.


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IQ tests are known to be highly flawed in demonstrating real-world intelligence - which boils down to what Limer said above. It sounds like the Slosson test is based on verbal skills, which probably makes it a better measure than the standard tests, and might provide a good idea of where M is in terms of development in that area. I am always suspicious, though, of tests which just give a score - in this area it really is qualitative data you want. You want to see each answer to see where there's strengths and difficulties. If it's a straight-up number score for the whole test I'd be doubtful it can be of any particualr help without further testing to look at specific areas.

IQ (as well as other 'intelligences') also changes throughout life, and depending on education, cultural capital, parental involvement, environment, nutritional levels etc. What people respond to in IQ tests is also culturally specific, which adds another whole load of issues.

One of the worst pieces or research fakery ever was a scientist (who's name I forget, unfortunately - it's been a while since I was studying this!) who did a study on identical twins separated at birth, and found their IQs to be the same regardless of upbringing and education. How on earth did he find so many separated twins, I hear you ask? Well, the short answer is he didn't, he made them up. Didn't stop our school system for decades testing children at 11 to decide if they were worth giving a decent education to or not. Do not. Get me. Started.

To use the rather risky strategy of using myself as an example here - we did CAT (Cognative Ability Tests) at 14 in my school - I came joint top (out of 40 in our year group) in the verbal reasoning test, and absolute bottom in the numeracy one. Similarly, I was invigilating the 11+ entrance exams to a Grammar School (see above Mad) which are basically an intelligence test, and flicking through the paper I would have not even begin to be able to answer, at 18, half of the questions these 11-year-olds were scribbling away at. Yet I joined the same school at 16 and was as bright as the girls who had got in through that exam.

Testing for particular areas of strength and weakness can be very useful in picking up not just that someone is 'bad at maths' etc but exactly what it is that is the problem about it. However IQ tests aren't so much geared towards that.


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Yes, yes, yes to absolutely everything that Domi just said.

Also this:
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and might provide a good idea of where M is in terms of development in that area.


...which doesn't include potential. Now, some kids clearly ARE more able than others, but I think it is very, very difficult to separate those out from the less able kids, because so much of it is due to just having parents who talk to them.

ETA: I mean separate the ones with untapped potential out. The ones who are developmentally ahead are, obviously, easier to spot...

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There's a young boy - two years old - at our church who can take apart a toy metal car with an eyeglass screwdriver and reassemble it perfectly. He can draw perfect cubes and a circle you'd swear was made with a compass. He knows his numbers past a hundred and has started learning multiplication.

He can say three words clearly: "no," "cat," and "Jacob."

There's no accounting for these differences in cognition.


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My cousin just recently turned two. Today we visited with his family and my sister was watching over him for a while as he was eating (he was hungry so they gave him some veggies before the rest of us sat down.) He was happily eating his beets under her encouragement until she let it slip that "beets are good for you" at which point he spat out the piece he was eating and started to play with them instead.


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Healthy reaction, I'd say! Big Grin
My mom would try that approach with me for years. I just recently finally got through to her that "it's good for you" is the worst argument when trying to make kids eat something.
 
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Graeme came downstairs this morning with a pair of track pants, T-shirt, socks and underwear. He told us he decided to go with a plain pair of underwear instead instead of his "lacy ones."

He's six. He has no underwear beyond the purely utilitarian. We asked him to produce the "lacy ones," which turned out to be a pair of Christy's.


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