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Originally posted by Dweller in Darkness:
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LOL, beat you to it. Great minds and all that...

So the one thing that I dont quite get is the old bald guy. Obviously somthing happened to him that made him walk.

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So, good show, eh?

Meadra just told me that last night's episode was written by David Fury, who wrote a dozen or so Buffy episodes and directed yet more of them.

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So the one thing that I dont quite get is the old bald guy. Obviously somthing happened to him that made him walk.

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Meadra's thought was that he had a spinal compression that was cutting off his nerves. A traumatic event can reduce that compression, but, as we saw when he fell after the boar attack, it looks like the decompression might not be permanent.

Yeah, maybe, but it seems that he's got some connection with the island. Earlier episodes showd him smiling when people were getting scared at the mysterious island monster. And then he had a run in with the island monster last night and survived it. There's just alot more to that guy.

I effing LOVE Locke. Very cool character. At the beginning of the episode, I thought he was going to be one of those one-dimensional badass characters. The kind I usually like but can't decide why.

Line of the Episode (IMHO)-

"How'd you get that knife on the plane??"
"...Checked it."

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Originally posted by Munk:
Yeah, maybe, but it seems that he's got some connection with the island. Earlier episodes showd him smiling when people were getting scared at the mysterious island monster. And then he had a run in with the island monster last night and survived it. There's just alot more to that guy.

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Well, his name's John Locke. That's the same name as a seventeenth century philosopher who's central themes resolved around a defiance of authority and the use of human reason to establish the boundaries of human understanding.

Joseph Conrad in his book, "The Heart of Darkness," has a character name Kurtz who seems to exemplify Locke's principle of a man devoid of innate respect for authority who uses his own sense of reason to decide what is right and what is wrong. Through the book he becomes less and less stable (and, incidentally, gets a scratch across his face, over his eye, as I recall), until his reason is completely out of whack.

I wouldn't be surprised if that's just exactly what Locke is, a man who defies authority ("Don't tell me what I can't do.") but will grow to defy it to such a degree that he will lose grasp of his reason.

Or he's a dinosaur.

I also like the Hobbit guy. His character is pretty damn funny. He's almost like the 4th Hanson brother or somthing.

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I also like the Hobbit guy. His character is pretty damn funny. He's almost like the 4th Hanson brother or somthing.

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I love how no one but he and Kate are aware of the existence of Driveshaft.

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Joseph Conrad in his book, "The Heart of Darkness," has a character name Kurtz who seems to exemplify Locke's principle of a man devoid of innate respect for authority who uses his own sense of reason to decide what is right and what is wrong. Through the book he becomes less and less stable (and, incidentally, gets a scratch across his face, over his eye, as I recall), until his reason is completely out of whack.

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Interesting that you say that because there was a line last night asking somthing like "you guys are gonna go out into the heart of darkness?"

Further, wasn't the apocalypse now character based on kurtz a Col.?

Yep, he was Colonel Kurtz. Gosh we're smart. Or just have too much time on our hands.

<grumpy teacher mode> Would you please stop talking about Heart of Darkness? I'm just correcting intermediate exams on the novel, and most of them are pretty dire... </grumpy teacher mode>

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<grumpy teacher mode> Would you please stop talking about Heart of Darkness? I'm just correcting intermediate exams on the novel, and most of them are pretty dire... </grumpy teacher mode>

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Sorry Thirth. But I have to admit, I had a really tough time reading Heart of Darkness. I started it about 5 times and only finished it once. Maybe if it had been for a class and discussion, I would have gotten alot more out of it, but I really just wasn't into it. That may be because I had seen Apocalypse Now already, and was constantly compaing the two.

And Apocalypse Now is just so much cooler than Heart of Darkness.

For me the Apocalypse Now comparison actually helped - perhaps because I could relate to it more. Conrad takes some getting used to, but I think he's definitely worth it. Lord Jim is very good, and The Nigger of the Narcissus is also worthwhile, even though its racial views are, let's say, somewhat antiquated.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this discussion of what sounds like a fascinating, cool new series.

Yes, it's quite fascinating . . . which makes me wonder if it'll be cancelled by mid-season, or sometime Monday.

Sounds like good independent movies in Berne - they're usually on for two minutes before they're replaced by mainstream dreck. At least the same can be said for crap independent movies... (Dweller, did you ever watch the English series Ultraviolet? Very good writing, and cool storyline, yet it never got off the ground. It developed into something of a cult favourite, though - enough so that they wanted to make a US remake for a while, probably taking out everything that made the series cool in the first place.)

Surly it wont be cancelled this early into it. There's way way way too many questions to be answered. If they do cancel it, I hope that they at least have the monster jump out of the woods so that we can see it. Even if it is somthing cheesy like a government controlled psycho clown.