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Wasn't the leaf Clara's special thing, the Most Important Leaf In The Universe, that bought her parents together, and that she gave to the singing-girl as her important story-token?

I liked this one a LOT, and not just because it was a lot better that last week's. It introduced two HUGE important bits of canon, and not in a way that make me shriek.


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How would the leaf be a nod to Firefly? I seriously doubt it would be, it just needed to be something seemingly random.


I didn't realise that the previous one (the Gaiman one) was written for last season.

Although it doesn't make me like it any more, it makes more sense as, as I was discussing with the person who told me, if you imagine Amy playing the Clara-part. Then it kinda works with her taking charge and stuff, and even some of the lines were very Amy-lines.


I didn't think it was written for the last season, it was written with the idea that Clara was governess Clara.


A friend of ours made a convincing case to me that it was written for Amy and Rory; Clara being Amy, and two kids being Rory.

It would make sense, given the 'this place is dangerous so I'll let you sleep outside the TARDIS in a dangerous place' is not something terribly logical to tell kids, but would make sense to tell an adult. Kind of.


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I quite enjoyed The Name of the Doctor. I was very happy to see some old Doctors and Hartnell speak again!

I'm worried about what the last 3 minutes portends for future Who, but I'll reserve judgement. After a largely meh half-season Saturday's episode made up for it.


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Good episode, and a good explanation for why Clara is what she is.

So here's what I'm wondering: is John Hurt's Doctor from his future, or his past? Could he be a secret incarnation between 8 & 9 that did some of the awful things that the Doctor regrets in the Time War?

Not that I wouldn't watch the shit out of a few seasons of John Hurt as the Doctor.


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I think the Gaiman episode mgiht've been written both ways. Initially as an Amy/Rory episode, then rewritten for Governess Clara and the waiflings*, and THEN rewritten for the new Clara, with all the bit sinbetween tacked on from previous drafts.

It really didn't feel like a final draft of an episode, to be honest, and with Neil whinging in the media about not getting paid enough to do lots of rewrites I frankly hope he either sucks it up and does the bloody job next time, pay or no, or just doesn't bother trying.

* Calling dibs on Clara and the Waiflings as the name for a She & Him cover band.


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On the other hand making episodes on half-finished scripts is in the finest traditions of Doctor Who Smile


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with Neil whinging in the media about not getting paid enough to do lots of rewrites I frankly hope he either sucks it up and does the bloody job next time, pay or no, or just doesn't bother trying.

Kind of glad I didn't see this.


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i was a bit annoyed by that, too. like, seriously? you're complaining they don't pay you for rewrites on DOCTOR WHO??? who needs pay for rewrites when you're rewriting DOCTOR WHO??????

*sigh*

i wonder (really hope) it's been misattributed. or something.


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It's really not that bad, but he does mention pay and not liking all the rewrites.


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That's ... really a bit of a pity. Professional writing does need paying for, but under the circs, it's not the thing I would have expected him to put any attention on. I'd be a bit surprised, after that, if he writes for Who again.


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A day with Tennant


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So, I come home form work today and put on my "Horton hears a Who" shirt.(elephant with TARDIS) Than I sit down to enjoy the new episode.(like the new coat, not sure what I think about the new inside of the TARDIS.) After the show I am wondering around on the Internet and I see an article about Matt retiring at the end of the year. And my little brain is going "What?"

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I posted that two month ago. Today it was made official - Matt is leaving us Frown


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OH GO ON: place your bets here, please, for no 12.


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I fully support Warren Ellis's demands for Hellen Mirren as the next Doctor.


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I fully support Warren Ellis's demands for Hellen Mirren as the next Doctor.

She would be amazing.

While I'm a little sad to see Matt go, on the whole, I'm not displeased by it. After a rather wobbly season, I think maybe Who could use a change.


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So long, and thanks for all the fish custard.

I doubt Helen Mirren would be interested. It's the same names brought out each time for possible new Doctors by the press, none of them likely to do it. The role's beneath them.

Nobody predicted Matt Smith.


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I know, it will be someone nobody thinks of / has heard of. But it's fun to imagine anyway.


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I doubt it will be someone who's already 'famous'. It'll be someone with a respectable body of work, like Smith, Tennant and Eccleston, but not a household name already.



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I'd heard of Eccleston as I'd love him in The Second Comming, but I agree, I didn't know him well and certainly didn't know smith or tennant.


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I'd heard of Eccleston as I'd love him in The Second Comming, but I agree, I didn't know him well and certainly didn't know smith or tennant.

Who wants to see someone already famous in a recurring role, really? I mean, even in The Avengers, the only inhumanly famous of the lot is Robert Downey Jr. and he was just barely famous at the time of the first Iron Man movie. (Yes, Scarlett Johanssen's famous, but not so much as an actress, but as a bird in a skirt - more's the pity because she's actually quite a good actress)


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