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you make a good point, Dweller. I just felt that it was so very at odds in tone with the rest of the ep, and it felt a bit disjointed. fair play to the doctor, though.


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you make a good point, Dweller. I just felt that it was so very at odds in tone with the rest of the ep, and it felt a bit disjointed. fair play to the doctor, though.

Honestly, the haunted house bits did nothing for me. Just weren't scary. As a haunted FOREST episode, though . . . let's just say that when Graeme said he didn't want to go up into the woods behind our house the next day, I didn't object.


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Another totally-makes-sense masterpiece from the man who brought us "The Curse of the Black Spot."


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Why were the burnt time-zombies hostile? There didn't seem to be any explanation for this.


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Why were the burnt time-zombies hostile? There didn't seem to be any explanation for this.


That never even occurred to me. I just assumed it was side effect of the burning process.
 
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Why were the burnt time-zombies hostile? There didn't seem to be any explanation for this.

Closest thing I can give to a coherent explanation: when they're pinned down on the gantry, the Doctor is most concerned that if the zombies touch their living counterparts, then what's happened becomes a fixed point in time. In other words, his chief concern isn't that they'll beat them to death with their burny fists, but that they'll cause the TARDIS' destruction to become a fix point.

From the zombies' perspective, this is a good thing, because one presumes that they aren't, in fact, zombies, but people caught in the grip of a neverending fiery death. If they can close the time loop, they get to die.


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Don't try to explain it. I think we can safely just assume it's the work of a bad writer, cramming in conflict without reason.


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Don't try to explain it. I think we can safely just assume it's the work of a bad writer, cramming in conflict without reason.


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Next week's episode looks like it's got the potential to be brilliant. Plus it's going to be very interesting to see the reaction of Madame Vastra, Jenny & Strax to ModernClara


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Why were the burnt time-zombies hostile? There didn't seem to be any explanation for this.

Closest thing I can give to a coherent explanation: when they're pinned down on the gantry, the Doctor is most concerned that if the zombies touch their living counterparts, then what's happened becomes a fixed point in time. In other words, his chief concern isn't that they'll beat them to death with their burny fists, but that they'll cause the TARDIS' destruction to become a fix point.

From the zombies' perspective, this is a good thing, because one presumes that they aren't, in fact, zombies, but people caught in the grip of a neverending fiery death. If they can close the time loop, they get to die.


And they got to cease to exist anyway. Although what supersnazz says is a pretty good point too.


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So what did we think of The Crimson Horror? I thought it was one of the most rushed and fast-paced of the season but otherwise pretty fun, but not much to write home about.

Mind you, does anyone get the impression... that the Doctor has figured out who or what Clara is? Near the end of Journey/TARDIS he confronts Clara and seems relieved that she's clueless, and in this episode Jenny asks him to explain Clara and he seems quite jovial in his evasiveness. I think he's figured her out but isn't saying anything yet.


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I enjoyed the episode, but you're right in that it was quite rushed. Perils of writing a show that only runs 45-ish minutes. I was hoping for more revelations as regards Clara, rather than the Victorian trio just being confused by her existence.

I'm curious Mark, did this episode fit with your theory of each episode hearkening back to a subsequent previous Doctor? I'm not familiar enough with Who-lore to know if there were any nods to the Davison era.


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The Australian who was supposed to get to Heathrow was Tegan. She was occasionally scared by her adventures with the Doctor, at which point he would say, "Brave heart, Tegan."


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I didn't feel it was rushed just because a lot of things happened, it was one of my favourites this season so far!

I adored the Doctor's northern accent! Northern flatmate was... less impressed Big Grin



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I loved this one. It made me laugh and made me think (a bit) and had Diana Rigg in it! (Mark Gattis is hit and miss with me. I didn't like the last one he did)


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Honestly, the lightning pacing worked to the episode's distinct advantage.

Wait, so she wants to rain down death on the world to start a new Eden. Got that. But WHY?

No time! Strax has a sidekick named Thomas Thomas! Jenny is a ninja! Clara's hair is strange and off-putting! Move, move, move!


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The Tomtom joke (once I got it) seemed a little overly ridiculous.


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i think the hair was to keep her distinct from previous Victorian Clara, but yeah it was irritating me too!
 
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The Tomtom joke (once I got it) seemed a little overly ridiculous.


It was completely ridiculous, but I still laughed after I got it (which, pitifully, took about a day).


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The Australian who was supposed to get to Heathrow was Tegan. She was occasionally scared by her adventures with the Doctor, at which point he would say, "Brave heart, Tegan."


Brilliant, thanks Jim!


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