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I don't remember the last time I started a shift, and just happened to notice the other was over the limit so figured what the hell Smile


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Shift 99 - gone but not forgoten.


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Dude, that shift was so last century Razz
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It just seemed to becoming a big snore.


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Good news! The awful S.1867 bill that would give authority to the US military to arrest US citizens didn't pass.

Now if Congress NOPEs H.R.3261 - federal internet site blocking do to copyright infringement allegations - later this month, we'll have a have a merry non-Orwellian Christmas after all! Razz
 
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Woke up a bit after 1 AM. It is now 3:30 AM. So tired, but cannot get back to sleep. Pregnancy has done weird things to my sleep patterns.


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Originally posted by Furious:
Good news! The awful S.1867 bill that would give authority to the US military to arrest US citizens didn't pass.

Now if Congress NOPEs H.R.3261 - federal internet site blocking do to copyright infringement allegations - later this month, we'll have a have a merry non-Orwellian Christmas after all! Razz


*taps Furious on shoulder*

How likely is it for private members' bills like this to actually get passed? Are they as likely as, say, bills sponsored by the Executive?


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Originally posted by Furious:
Good news! The awful S.1867 bill that would give authority to the US military to arrest US citizens didn't pass.

Now if Congress NOPEs H.R.3261 - federal internet site blocking do to copyright infringement allegations - later this month, we'll have a have a merry non-Orwellian Christmas after all! Razz


ONE DOWN ONE TO GO!! Wait, is that the same law? I didn't realize they were tacking it to the yearly military budget. *rolls eyes* Now Fox is going to spin it "Congress doesn't want to pay our brave servicemen and women".


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I'm confused it says the amendment was rejected. I think it was talking about the amendment to the bill to make it NOT possible to detain American Citizens or Legal Residents with military force and no due process?

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I'm confused it says the amendment was rejected. I think it was talking about the amendment to the bill to make it NOT possible to detain American Citizens or Legal Residents with military force and no due process?


Holy shit. That was for amendment S.A. 1064, NOT S.A. 1062, by another Senator Paul. That amendment I linked to was a rejection to an official end of the Iraq war (yes, it's still going on, folks).

The bill passed. If Obama doesn't veto the bill any US citizen can be thrown into a military prison, possibly one outside the United States, if they are considered to be behaving "belligerently" (ambiguous as hell, isn't it?).

What's even more disturbing is that Huffington is the only major media source that mentioned this, and it only did so after the fact.

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quote:
Originally posted by Furious:
Good news! The awful S.1867 bill that would give authority to the US military to arrest US citizens didn't pass.

Now if Congress NOPEs H.R.3261 - federal internet site blocking do to copyright infringement allegations - later this month, we'll have a have a merry non-Orwellian Christmas after all! Razz


*taps Furious on shoulder*

How likely is it for private members' bills like this to actually get passed? Are they as likely as, say, bills sponsored by the Executive?


Bills like this (one that are associated with budgets) are notoriously bloated and virtually unreadable, meaning that it's easy to slip in bad legislation or pork projects as long as no one fully reads or comprehends the bill. It's the reason why I supported an executive power called a line-item veto, which allowed the President to "cross-out" parts of a bill he didn't like, so he wouldn't have to throw the baby out with the bathwater. The line-itemed provisions would the get kicked back to Congress where they would need a 2/3 majority to supersede the President and pass the items in question. Of course, a very partisan President could use such a power to constantly throw a wrench in the works (much like abusing a regular Presidential veto), which is why the President currently can't line-item veto.

Back on topic, bad legislation gets passed when Congress and the President don't know/isn't paying attention/knee jerks to the topics at hand. Bills are sponsored by individual members of Congress or teams. A President can't officially sponsor a bill but he can support it.
 
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Interesting. In the UK the government's legislation almost always becomes law, although often very different from how it got drafted. Parliament only ever threatens to veto in nuclear options.

The chances of a private bill (i.e. non-government) getting passed without government support is about 1/10.


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Also, a Standing Order of the House also states an increase on the burden to the Public Purse cannot be accepted unless the government accepts it explicitly. It goes some way to reducing pork.


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DM, it's rather similar in Canada, although a private bill has a slightly better chance of passing.

Part of the problem here is the absolute distinction between executive and legislative power in the American system. In a parliamentary system, you tend to - though only tend to - have more of a sense of working on the same team in both branches. It's not uncommon in the U.S. for the executive Republicans to be politically differentiatable* from the legislative Republicans.

That said, these are ridiculous, ridiculous laws that are only as close to getting passed as they are because . . . well, one of the people still running for the Republican nomination forgot the voting age.

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Haha, nice Dweller Smile yes, the Canadian Parliament inherited the rule from the British Parliament. Standing Order 48 was created in the 1670s or somesuch.


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There are a bunch of medievalists on twitter having a medieval soup contest right now. Yes, that's right. Medieval soup contest.


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mmm Medieval soup. Does that consist of witches and leprosy?


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Black (bean) plague soup?

Apparently the air purifier needs to be set on high for it to drown out my husband's snores. Last night he kept me awake. When I got up I saw it was set on medium. I am so tired... and I have to figure out a way to make that machine stop on high.



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Bwaha! Just strolling through Royal Gallery in Parliament I came across the following telegram on display. It’s from 1936 referring to the Abdication Crisis. Sender is Lloyd George (former Prime Minister) to Stanley Baldwin (Prime Minister of the day), giving advice, with some amusingly unkind words about Winston Churchill and the Viscount Rothermere (the Murdoch of his day):

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LLOYD GEORGE

In event of abdication and York’s refusal for god’s sake for the unity of the empire and mercy have our trusted and known Queen Mary made regent.

Also kick Winston and rothermere in the pants.


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I'm not so sure *why* I went back to bed when my dreams were like that! I dreamt that my teeth fell out! Then I dreamt that Dev was a bit older and on a team of some sort and he wandered off with them without telling me. So I'm wandering all around the house we were at shouting 'Devlin Oregano!' And even in my dream I was thinking, 'But that's not his name...'



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