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I swear I remember a section where Shadow was watching his mum dance at a party with Wednesday and she was described as dark skinned.
My memory is sometimes faulty though and I can't lay hands on the book right this second, so I could be wrong. Which isn't to say I would cast Vin Diesel. I don't think he's a capable actor. However, I would like to see him do a read through before I made such a judgment. But, then again, I'm not a casting agent. sweet dreams. make waves. find bliss. ~Neil Finn Minister of Kraftwerk in the Realm of U & P, Order of the Pineapple with frond for advancement in Nap studies. |
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Based purely on their look and paying no regard to acting ability, I think either Vin Diesel or Dwayne Johnson would make a great Shadow. In the book, Shadow's described as being a big, muscular guy with "cream-and-coffee colored" skin and dark eyes. He's 32, but it's implied he appears to be of slightly indeterminate age (a prison guard tells him, "you wait like the old guys, but you're what? Twenty-five? Twenty-eight?" Another character remarks that he looks younger than 32). He has a multiracial look - the same prison guard asks him if he's a "spic" or a "gypsy" before pondering that he might have African-American blood. Sam asks him if he has Native American ancestry.
For Laura, I do like Jennifer Connelly, but I think she's just too old for the part. The book describes her as a 27-year-old with chestnut coloured hair and blue eyes. Personally, I like Emily Blunt for her. |
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I joined the site so that I could comment. Heh.
Anyway, I've recently re-read the book, and had some actors/actresses in mind. I'm fairly horrible at casting these sorts of things, so it's not a complete list. Shadow: I kind of like the idea of Wentworth Miller (Prison Break). If Wikipedia can be believed, his ancestry is rather varied. Wednesday: ...Not sure. Laura: I thought of Zooey Deschanel while I was reading it. Sam: Eh, I think of Q'Orianka Kilcher (The New World) for some reason. It might only be because she's of Native American ancestry. I guess I like authenticity? Mr. Nancy: I kind of think that Samuel L. Jackson could do it, but I was under the impression that Mr. Nancy was older. I'm probably wrong. Easter: I thought of Scarlett Johansson the whole time. That's pretty much all I have... "You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'"--Phillip J. Fry |
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Okay, here's what I've got.
Baldur "Shadow" Moon Shadow is thirty-two, though it's implied that he appears to be of somewhat indeterminate age. A prison guard tells him, "you wait like the old guys, but you're what? Twenty-five? Twenty-eight?" Another prison officer observes that he looks younger than his thirty-two years. He has "cream-and-coffee" coloured skin and a multiracial look about him. The aforementioned prison guard asks him whether he is a "spic" or a "gypsy", before musing that Shadow might have some "[African American] blood in [him]". Sam Black Crow asks him if he is Native American. He has "dark hair". There are two conflicting descriptions of his eyes - he's said at various times to have "light grey eyes" and "dark eyes". He's a big guy, very tall and muscular, and looks "don't-fuck-with-me enough" that he was never troubled in prison. He's empty inside. Marguerite describes him as "melancholy"; Laura calls him a "big, solid, man-shaped hole in the world". I think Vin Diesel or Dwayne Johnson have the right look. Dominic Purcell could be good, too. Laura Moon She has "long dark hair", "chestnut"-coloured, and "eyes so blue" that when they first met "Shadow mistakenly thought she was wearing tinted contact lenses". There is a "crooked hopefulness" to her smile. Her age is given as twenty-seven. Jennifer Connelly has a great look but, as I said, I think she's just too old. Emily Blunt is perfect in my mind. Mr. Wednesday Wednesday has "reddish grey" hair and a "greyish red" beard which is "little more than stubble". He has a "craggy, square face with pale grey eyes"; one is a "darker grey than the other", that being his glass eye. He wears expensive suits, silk ties, silver tie pins and a "black Rolex". When he smiles, it reminds Shadow of a documentary on chimpanzees, in which he learnt that chimps only grin as a show of aggression. He is "almost Shadow's height", and Shadow is a big man. This is the one I had the hardest time narrowing down. I quite like Rip Torn, Dennis Hopper, Ian McKellen, Christopher Lee and Malcolm McDowell, among others. However, put Brian Cox in an expensive pale suit and he fits my mental image of Wednesday pretty perfectly. Low Key Lyesmith Low Key "[keeps] his orange-blond hair pretty much shaved. You [can] see the lines of his skull." When he smiles, his lips "crease into a network of rough scars". His eyes glimmer "like the orange embers of a dying fire". Barry Pepper, maybe? Or Paul Bettany? Mr. Nancy Anansi is an "elderly black man" with a "pencil moustache"; "a small man, the kind of little old man who [looks] as if the passing of the years have shrunk him". He is seen wearing a "bright checked suit and canary-yellow gloves", and smoking a "black cigarillo". He has a "dazzling smile" and speaks with a faint twang, "a hint of a patois that might have been West Indian". His eyes are "the colour of mahogany". So, definitely not Samuel L. Jackson! Mr. Ibis Mr. Ibis is a "crane-like man with gold-rimmed spectacles". He speaks in explanations, "a gentle, earnest lecturing that put Shadow in mind of a collage professor ... who could not talk, could only discourse, expound, explain." He wears a "sober brown hat" that matches his "sober brown blazer and his sober brown face". He is "well over six feet in height, with a crane-like stoop". Shadow observes that he has seen "black guys who looked like Mr. Ibis" and "white guys with tan who looked like Mr. Ibis". I like Ben Kingsley for him. Mr. Jacquel Mr. Jacquel is a "very tall, dark-skinned man". His "dark brown eyes" are as "quizzical and cold as a desert dog's". Laurence Fishburne. Bast She has "brown hair and brown skin" and her eyes are "the deep golden-amber of good honey". Her pupils are "vertical slits". Her mannerisms are perfectly feline. Rosario Dawson, perhaps? Or Leonor Varela. Horus He has "dark brown" skin, a high forehead and "tightly curled" dark hair. He's also mad, something Shadow is able to tell "at a glance". Jaye Davidson sprang to mind immediately and the thought refuses to budge. Czernobog Czernobog is a short man; he has a "grey face" with "craggy features" and "iron-grey hair". His voice is "old and cigarette-roughened" and his teeth are "yellow". He has "square-tipped" fingers, their tips "as yellow as if they had been dipped in iodine". His hands are "rough and callused". Shadow observes a "hunger" in his face "for something, for pain, or death, or retribution". His "grey eyes" are "like points of steel". This is the one that really has me stumped. A few ideas have come to mind but none that really scream Czernobog to me. The Zorya Zorya Verchernyaya is a "gaunt old woman" with a "thick, Eastern European" accent. I'm thinking Maggie Smith. Zorya Utrennyaya is "smaller and frailer than [Verchernyaya]", but her hair is "long and still golden". Kathryn Joosten. Zorya Polunochnaya has "pale and colourless" hair which falls "to her waist". Shadow can't tell her age; her skin is "unlined", her eyes "dark" and her lashes "long". She is "taller than either of her sisters" and has a "soft, Eastern European accent". I like Scarlett Johansson, though I keep seeing Claire Danes in Stardust. Bilquis A "tall woman" with "black hair... piled up high and knotted on top of her head". Her lips are "ruby-red". Monica Bellucci? Easter She is "not fat, no, far from fat," she is "curvaceous". Her hair is "so fair that it [is] white, the kind of platinum-blonde tresses that should have belonged to a long-dead movie starlet". Her lips are "crimson" and her eyes "the exact colour of a leaf in spring with the sun shining through it". She could be anywhere "between twenty-five and fifty". Her laugh is "deep and throaty, full-bodied and joyous". Cynthia Ettinger or Sara Rue. Mad Sweeney He has a "short ginger beard". He is seen wearing "a denim jacket covered with bright sew-on patches, and under the jacket a stained white T-shirt". Despite being a leprechaun, he doesn't have an Irish accent, having "been over here too fucken long". He's an "impossibly tall man" - Shadow estimates that he is "almost seven feet tall". Tony Curran? Jake Busey? Though I'd like to imagine Denis Leary in the role. Hinzelmann An "old man" with "blue eyes" and a "fluff of white hair". He has a "cheerful face" and a "goblin grin". His hands are "red-knuckled" and "as hard and callused as an oak branch". He is about "half [Shadow's] height". When Shadow confronts him, he seems "more like a gargoyle than an imp"; without his smile he seems "waxen and corpselike". Definitely Terry O'Quinn or Ian Holm. Media She is "perfectly made-up, perfectly coiffed". She reminds Shadow of "every newscaster he'd ever seen on a morning television sitting in a studio that didn't really resemble a living room." Angelina Jolie or Marcia Cross. The Fat Kid This unnamed technological god is a "fat young man" who looks "barely out of his teens: a spattering of acne glistened on one cheek". He wears a "long black coat, made of some silky material". Jonah Hill looks good to me. Sam Black Crow She has "a tangle of short dark hair and a face that [is] both attractive and ... faintly mannish: Her features might have been chiselled out of rock." She has "dark eyes". Her father is Native American and her mother is caucasian. I can't decide - Shannyn Sossamon, Tamara Podemski, Zuleikha Robinson or Natalie Portman. Marguerite Olsen Marguerite is a "tired woman" with "practical brown hands", "dark eyes" and "long, long black hair". Julianna Margulies or Carrie Anne Moss. Chad Mulligan No physical description given. I kinda like Jeffrey Dean Morgan. Mr. Town Town is in his late 40s and is described as having "thinning hair, a tan, and a faintly hangdog expression". I keep thinking Jack Coleman, maybe it's just the secret-agency-man-in-black vibe. ...I probably put too much thought into that. |
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I like a lot of your choices, especially Robert Guillame for Mr. Nancy.
My problem is that I don't know a lot of actors and actresses aside from bigger names. "You can't give up hope just because it's hopeless. You have to hope even harder, cover your ears, and go 'blah blah blah blah blah!'"--Phillip J. Fry |
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I like them all BUT... For Shadow, believe it or not, I'd go with Guy Pierce. Guy buffed up for a role once and all I could see was Shadow. As for Wednesday, I like your choice or Anthony Hopkins. Btw, new to the Forum so...hello forum folk! |
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Ok, first I want to say that my choices are simply the people I imagined as I read the book. I didn't reflect on their acting ability, availibilty, or whether or not they matched the character descriptions.
Shadow: This one is tough because I imagine someone I know and none of you have ever laid eyes on him. Am I the only one who imagines people in my life as opposed to actors when you read a book? I find I do that a lot. Anyway, he's very tall and dark and all that stuff. Laura: This is going to sound very crazy, I'm sure, but I've always imagined Rachael Ray from Food Network as Laura. She just always seemed like Laura to me. Especially in the flashbacks to happier times, like the scene where she and Shadow were talking about getting a puppy. Wednesday: I don't have a clear image in my head for him. But I always imagined his voice waslike Earl Hindman, aka Mr. Wilson from Home Improvement. Weird,huh? Sam: Sara Rue. Even though she's not dark haired or remotely Native American looking, she is who I've always imagined. Czernobog: Anthony Quinn, when he was older and gray haired. I know he passed away so this is impossible...but he would have been perfect to me. I have more but I have to go to school now! Thanks! |
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The ones Im DEFINITELY sure of are:
Barry Pepper as Loki Lyesmith Christopher Walken as Czernobog Monica Bellucci as Zoyra P Bonnie Hunt as Easter Paris Hilton as Media Jack Coleman as Mr Town I want Pierfrancesco Favino in there somewhere too The others...well youve seen my suggestions on page 21...but im still uncertain on a few. especially the leads (shadow, wednesday, Jaquel and Ibis especially) I know it's crooked...But its the only game in town |
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I don't think an ensemble cast is needed. Newcomers and lesser character actors would work well, with perhaps a big name or two...if you can get them...for the cameo roles. Great ideas here...like Ben Kingsley as Ibis!
My (brief) two cents: Brian Doyle-Murray as Czernobog, Billy Dee Williams as Anansi, and John Corbett as Mad Sweeney.... |
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Vin Diesel as Shadow
Peter Stormare as Wednesday Paul Bettany as Low-key Lyesmith Billy Connolly as Mad Sweeney Anne Hathaway as Laura Gerry Bednob as Mr. Nancy Julie Warner as Marge Olsen Jonah Hill as fat technology kid The Landlord from Spiderman-3 as Czernobog/Bielebog that does it for the main ones. That's who I cast in my head, anyway. |
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oh, and Oprah Winfrey would be perfect for Media. Whether she would do it is the question.
Also, the movie would have to be done in the style of Natural Born Killers. |
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Danny Devito as Czernobog!
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You are right, the book never says Shadow is black. But it does, in several places tell us that Shadow has a non-Caucasian appearance: (the prison guard, before Shadow gets let out) "And what are you? A spic? A gypsy? Maybe you got nigger blood in you. You got nigger blood in you, Shadow?" (P12 in my version, which is the author's preferred text, so maybe a different page to other versions Sam Black Crow: "You got Indian blood in you?" Shadow: "Not that I know of." Sam Black Crow: "You looked like it, was all." (P180, my version) Shadow's race is never specified. It's hinted at, but left mysterious. So a lot of actors could play Shadow, as long as they're not, you know, blue eyed, blonde haired Scandinavian types. Also, it's really interesting that the book says he has hair. I also always imagined him as bald for some reason! For me, I didn't so much have specific actors in mind, as traits that the characters have. Wednesday would be important to get right...I imagined him as very well groomed, with a goatee, very charming. And I love the description of his "shit-eating grin" or whatever the book says *quickly dives into book which is beside me* "then he grinned, like a fox eating shit from a barbed wire fence" HAHAHA! That cracks me up! So it would have to be an actor who could pull off that grin. I think Jack Black fits Tech Boy perfectly. Christina Ricci was always Sam Black Crow to me. Nancy is a hard one. Morgan Freeman would be a good choice, but he's too skinny! Anansi would be short and rotund, I think. As for Czernobog, I have no idea. |
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All right amateurs (no offense), mover over: Balder18 has revealed the Ultimate American Gods Cast List, I began writing a screenplay immediately after reading it and here is my dream cast:
Shadow-Vin Diesel, Balder is described as a mocha colored character Laura-Charlize Therron Mr. Wednesday-Robert Prosky Anansi-Danny Glover (believe me, it would work). Czernobog-Donald Sutherland with the accent Loki-Sean Penn Mad Sweeny-Callum Blue from Dead Like Me Mr. Ibis-James Earl Jones Mr Jackell-Jimmy Jean Louis Bast-Nicole Ari Parker( Look her up) Horus-Terrence Howard Bilquis-Kerry Washington Mama Ji-Mira Shenoy Hinzelmann-Anthony Hopkins Eostre-Christina Ricci Zorya's-Helen Mirren, Judi Dench, Bebe Neuwirth Whiskey Jack-Graham Green Johnny Appleseed-Tim Robbins Sam-Anne Hudgens Chad Sherriff-Daniel Brul/Inglorious Basterds Marge-Rachel Weis Ms. Media-Cameron Diaz Mr Town-Ed Harris |
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Anthony Hopkins as Wednesday. He fits the body type and age range as well as being able to look serious or goofy at the drop of a hat.
Vin Diesel as Shadow. Both have a subtle sense of humor but tend to be most impressive when they're being quiet and letting the action go on around them. Robert carlyle as mad sweeny. The personalities match. Robert Guillaume as Mr. Nancy. The right combination of respectable old dude and cranky old man. Clint Eastwood as loki. Yeah he's got a few years but since low key was described as tough and weathered with short white hair clint could play it. Morgan freeman as mr Ibis. You can't have anyone play someone who likes the sound of their own voice that much without having someone who everyone loves their voice. Jack Black as the internet kid. William Peterson "gil Grissom" from CSI as czernobog. |
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You're right about Christina Ricci; I forgot about Eostre's description; perhaps,the older lady from the Skeleton Key.But Cameron Diaz, has the voice, Shrek movies, and Robert Guillame doesn't have Anansi's swagger-read Anansi Boys. James Earl Jones, as Ibis, was mainly for the voice-hell I would play Thoth if I could. Peterson isn't old enough and Hopkins would make a good Wednesday, but I like him as Hinzelman.
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Robert Prosky is the dad in Far and Away; I would love to see him play a con.
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Bonnie Hunt as Eostre
I know it's crooked...But its the only game in town |
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