I am still reading American Gods, and have managed to spot a few of the endless, Death is at Wednessday's doorstep on page 64. Despair tugs at Shadows heart through a mirror in the house of the dead on page 203. Delirum is walking her dog through the park during the picnic with Easter on page 306. I will check this forum after I finish, which will be a day or so considering I go through Neil's works like water. Please post any others you find, or that I may have missed and I will do the same.

Are you using the paperback edition? I have hardback, so I can't use your page references (till I inevitably go out and buy the paperback anyway so I don't wear out my hardback)... I found Delirium right off. I haven't seen the other two you mentioned, but Death shows up in the gathering for war, as an avatar of Baron Samedi... I guess you could say she's more Didi than Death, but Baron Samedi is a death god...

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Yup I spotted them too. I thought about putting the question in the FAQ, then i saw your post and figured it would be more fun this way...
I agree with eris: Death shows up before the war. (the top hat made you think didi ?)
And I had some far away notion about destruction (the lost brother)... Anyone find Dream so far?

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i have the paperback but i can't match the pages in my copy :\

can you point at them by chapters? i had spotted delirium, but not Death or Despair...

I'm not sure about the Death ref, but I take it that the Despair ref is when Shadow is cleaning up and getting dressed in Ibis & Jacquel's funeral home (p. 158 in the hardcover). He's just shaved with a straight razor, and he's looking at himself in the mirror, noticing his old bruises (from Mad Sweeney) and the new ones (from the Agency goons):

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".... His eyes looked mistrustfully from the mirror at him.

And then, as if someone else were holding his hand, he raised the straight razor, placed it, blade open, against his throat.

It would be a way out ... No more worries ..."

- Cho

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Originally posted by baby_dohl:
I am still reading American Gods, and have managed to spot a few of the endless, Death is at Wednessday's doorstep on page 64. Despair tugs at Shadows heart through a mirror in the house of the dead on page 203. Delirum is walking her dog through the park during the picnic with Easter on page 306. I will check this forum after I finish, which will be a day or so considering I go through Neil's works like water. Please post any others you find, or that I may have missed and I will do the same.

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Actually, that wasn't Death at Wednesday's door. The sensation of a huge ghostly bird flying through shadow was either one or both of Odin's Ravens, Huginn and Muninn, leaving his room to go out into the world to retrieve information for Odin.

joe

Could that bird have been a thunderbird, given that Shadow had just finished speaking with Laura?
Just a thought....

"He who controls the spice, controls the universe."

Sorry, I misspelled "ghostly". Man, that was totally dumb. My bad.

"He who controls the spice, controls the universe."

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Finn:
Could that bird have been a thunderbird, given that Shadow had just finished speaking with Laura?
Just a thought....

No, it was Huginn and/or Muninn.

joe

- Numberology eastereggs?
The sum of the number given for the population of Nottamun, 1301, also is the number of Shadow's stops at that point in the story (1+3+0+1=5). Plus 1301 is the year Dante Alligheri died.
I bet there's more playing with numbers...


- Triple Eastereggs?
There 's a lot of "threefoldness" in AG: Like tripple sisters of three (The Zorya, The Norns, and a three-women-deity in the "hall of forgotten gods"). Three stops between Eagle Point and St.Louis. The use of the Morrigan. Shadow does a coin trick for three children (kid in H.o.t.R., little girl in Cairo, Leon Olsen). Three sorts of mythical birds. and so much more...



- Cameos of characters (gods) as minor characters in the story?
On the St.Louis Airport Shadow is directed to speak to a "man in a red raincoat". Among other things, that could be a foreboding of Heinzelmann (whose lore sometimes depicts him as a kid in a red cloak). Iceman (a man "the size and shape of a cokemachine") could well be a hint at Allvis. Mabel with her fine pastys could foreshadow Eostre, etc.
It would even make sense in that they're secretly "checking out" the new player.

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Dreams really seem to have a big role in this book. So even if an anthropomorphic personification of Morpheus is never seen, you can still say that he is there.

I thought of Death at the bit on Lookout Mountain, but didn't the text say Samedi had taken over the body of a Goth girl because she had a top hat or something? If this is so, would he be able to do this to an anthropomorthic personification, or just to a mortal girl who looked like Death? (perhaps she was a Sandman fan )

I didn't really get the other references, but I'll go back to AG when I'm more familiar with the Endless.

Loss is the only word not in italics in the long writing during the Las Vegas visit.