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just curious...
and i really don't have the time to search through his entire journal


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bwah ha ha ha!

i asked teh unanswerable question...


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Well, no, it's just... he was part of the punk scene. He was in his own punk band (alternately known as Chaos and the Ex-Execs iirc). He was just... around in the late 1970s, so I'm sure he got a taste of all the UK bands of that time.
 
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so probably like the Damned and all them...
interesting...


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I'm going to make an educated guess 'cause then I get to make a list.

Sex Pistols, Clash, Damned, Buzzcocks, Undertones, Generation X, Fall, X-Ray Spex, Siouxie and the Banshees, Adam and the Ants, Stiff Little Fingers, Adverts, Skids, Anti-Nowhere League, New Model Army, Cockney Rejects, Ruts, Exploited, UK Subs, Blood, Eater, Angelic Upstarts, Peter and the Test Tube Babies, Hollywood Brats.

there you go, should keep you busy.






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"I'd been at her house that evening: we sat in her room and played Rattus Norvegicus, the first Stranglers LP; it was the beginning of punk, and everything seemed so exciting: the possibilities, in music as in everything else, were endless"

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and:

"Neil Gaiman was "a little punk" growing up in Sussex and Croydon, for whom Alice Cooper's legendary 1972 Top Of The Pops appearance performing "School's Out" was a distant memory. He'd felt a bit of an outsider before punk: until '76, white music had been dominated by Glam Rock, and the thirteen year-old Gaiman felt that walking a-round in make-up and a silver jumpsuit was rather silly behavior for someone his age. Then he hit 16 just as punk reared its spotty, unkempt head, and his teenage world went into overdrive. He and his friends used to hang around Croydon's urbane Fairfield Halls, baking in the '77 heatwave in their torn black jeans and leather jackets, too young to get into the shows, trying to sneak through the side door to soak up the charged atmosphere within. He saw the Clash, Costello, Ian Dury, even a ninety minute Jam soundcheck, which he later discovered, to his delight, was longer than the gig itself. As punk's initial fury dwindled, diluted by hoary old pub Rockers like the Boomtown Rats and the Stranglers, so did Neil's teen years. Soon greater issues than the colour of Polly Styrene's hair loomed, what career best suits a soft-spoken, suburban punk with a burgeoning Lou Reed fixation?"

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From the Gaiman journal:

'Am getting fonder and fonder of the Adverts CD "Cast of Thousands". When it came out, I remember thinking it a feeble followup to their debut album, "Crossing the Red Sea With the Adverts", and I thought the Adverts were a sort of second rate punk band (I saw them play Crawley Leisure Centre when I was 16, and loved the gig, and wished they were the Clash or the Pistols). They've aged better then almost all of their contemporaries, though. These days I find myself looking at "Cast of Thousands" as the place that TV Smith's blend of heartfelt-outrage-and-dreams-and-content songwriting really started to come together. Which I mention because I notice that TV Smith has released his first new CD in a few years, the first since "Generation Y" (if you don't count "USELESS" which was a sort of greatest hits CD, with all the songs rerecorded with a German punk band). The new album is called "Not A Bad Day" -- details at http://www.tvsmith.com/


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kewl.

some i've heard of, some i haven't. i'm just getting into 'the history of punk' and all the older, pioneering bands.


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Originally posted by Her Mighty Silly i'm just getting into 'the history of punk' and all the older, pioneering bands.


Beware - a lot of the British second and third division punk bands haven't.. uhm... aged that well. Buzzcocks and the Undertones are essential punk-pop, though.

And listen to Wire. Best British art-punk band ever.

some classic tracks "12XU", "Three Girl Rhumba", "Ex Lion Tamer", "Strange", "Reuters", "I Am the Fly", "Marooned", "Outdoor Miner" and many more.



LInk to debut album: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000024E0...351?v=glance&s=music

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does the Birthday Party figure in here anywhere, or was that too early/late/not in London?
 
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Beware - a lot of the British second and third division punk bands haven't.. uhm... aged that well. Buzzcocks and the Undertones are essential punk-pop, though.

And listen to Wire. Best British art-punk band ever.




Good point. There is alot of dross out there. Might be best to get a compilation (like the Burning Ambitions series, it's got a fairly comprehensive range). Avoid any that have a Gonads track as this will ensure it's cheap and nasty and full of the worst of it all. As Michael says, Undertones and Buzzcocks are essential. Good call on Wire too.


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does the Birthday Party figure in here anywhere, or was that too early/late/not in London?



Birthday Party are most certainly London, The Boys Next Door being Cave's Melbourne set up. Shivers by TBND is a damn misery classic and good at four a.m. It's also heavily featured in the film Dogs In Space (original, as a cover and as an instrumental. The soundtrack album to the movie would be fantastic. If it didn't have Thrush and the Cunts 'Diseases' and the Primative Calculators 'Pumping Ugly Muscle' as instrumentals. Can you guess why? Oh, and an edited version of Brian Eno's Skysaw. Bloody suits.)

Back to topic - The Birthday Party are early eighties inasmuch as The Boys Next Door moved to London in 1980 and changed the name, so it's possible and probable that they appeared on Gaimans radar. As would have early Ska and New Wave. And anything played by the immortal John Peel.

You could always ask the man though.






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man, Nick Cave and Neil need to team up on SOMETHING... like a movie or an album or a comic book or whatever... all the old school goths would have heart attacks of joy
 
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I don't know - if Cave and Gaiman came together there's a chance they'd cancel each other out, in a big explosion. Leaving a void filled with anne rices liposucked prose sung by mariah carey mid sex change.






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I don't know - if Cave and Gaiman came together there's a chance they'd cancel each other out, in a big explosion. Leaving a void filled with anne rices liposucked prose sung by mariah carey mid sex change.


Maybe they'd just spontaneously morph into PJ Harvey or Tori Amos
 
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most people involved in the punk scene, back in the day, either as musicians or fans were an extremely creative, adventurous group of people. okay, now i am complimenting myself.
 
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