well, if you're going to start carping about the acting...
I was always amazed how a really good script and characterisation could overcome so many mediocre actors.

I always thought the acting in Buffy was pretty good. Not the actors necessarily, but the acting. Maybe it's because of some Peter Jackson-y effect, when you are passionate about your idea, you get brilliant stuff from people who don't have much (yes, I'm looking at you, Bloom, Monagham and Tyler, but not at you, Wenham, coz you were crap even in that).

I just came from the comic book shop and got issue 3, they didn't have 1 or 2 but I caouldn't help myself. I hope they reorder, although I'm kinda scared to go to the store where the employees are unfriendly cooler-than-thou goth fashion victims or the store where the employee/owner is, almost certainly, a junkie and smells vaguely of pee.

Not fun, clover, not fun at all. There's always E-Bay. Strike now, when prices are low.

Really, the only one who bothered my with acting was SMG. The rest were . . . passable, but once I found all of her tics and cues, I had a lot of trouble taking her character's angst seriously.

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Originally posted by cloverheart:
I always thought the acting in Buffy was pretty good. Not the actors necessarily, but the acting.

I agree 100%. That's what i mean. None of those actors were much cop... not bad, so much as mediocre. But they got real emotion out of it because of the quality of the script and charcterisation.

Turning it around, i'm constantly amazed at the ability of films to consistently waste quality actors' talents.

Like Bob Hoskins, John Leguizamo, Dennis Hopper and Samantha Mathis in the Super Mario Bros. movie?

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Originally posted by Dweller in Darkness:
There's always E-Bay. Strike now, when prices are low.

Hmm.

I'm scared of e-Bay.

half.com, then? I don't even know if they have a periodicals section there.

I should be going to the comic book store on Saturday. I'll see if they have any copies there at list price.

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Originally posted by Dweller in Darkness:
Really, the only one who bothered my with acting was SMG. The rest were . . . passable, but once I found all of her tics and cues, I had a lot of trouble taking her character's angst seriously.

I dunno. I haven't seen seasons 5, 6 or 7, but at least up to season 4 the worst offender was Faith, as far as I'm concerned. She was okay after her coma, I thought, but before that she only worked in her scenes with the Mayor, I thought.

Well, I'm not counting ancilliary characters like her or Johnathan and Andrew so much. Faith's in season three, briefly in season four where she does an excellent job of . . . doing something that would be a serious plot spoiler . . . and then doesn't show up for quite a while.

Hey, Jonathan and Andrew were great!
I always thought Faith did a great job -I mean, her character wasthe kind of girl who's playing a role in real life anyway, so I liked the way she acted.

Bought number 1 online, coz I couldn't damn wait, at Mile High comics. not 2nd issue, coz it wasn't available, but they'll reprint it at some point I think.

Coolness, got the first 4 issue snow, yay!

My thoughts so far: As dweller said, the writing is great, it just feels right.
I especially like that they start a bit after the end of season 7, not immediately after. Of course, there's are lots of instances where I'm going "WTF!!", but Whedon kinda has that effect. I am looking forward to filling the blanks eventually

Not sure about having military stuff again after the Initiative fiasco, though...

Also, two stupid questions: I always thought Andrew was secretly gay. what is he doing playing strip-poker with all the girls?
And I have this stupid notion in my brain that Buffy died 3 times, but can remember only 2, so I'm either not remembering it correctly or I'm forgetting something...

in once more with feeling buffy sings *well i've died twice* so i'd go with 2.

once by the master and once saving dawny

spoiler-ish: did she officially die after being shot by wossname? before Willow extracted the bullet?

early on in season 7. I think. maybe it was season 6. It was definitely after the musical number.

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When was she shot? CAn't remember...

Artist: (Giles, Xander, Anya, Tara, Willow) Lyrics
Song: I've Got a Theory Lyrics
Giles:
I\'ve got a theory
That it\'s a demon
A dancing demon - nyehh, something isn\'t right there
Willow:
I\'ve got a theory
Some kid is dreaming
And we\'re all stuck inside his wacked broadway nightmare
Xander:
I\'ve got a theory, we should work this out
Willow,Anya,Tara,Xander:
It\'s getting eerie
What\'s this cheery singing all about
Xander:
It could be witches
Some evil witches
Which is ridiculous \'cause witches they were
Persecuted Wicca good and love the earth and
Women power and
I\'ll be over here
Anya:
I\'ve got a theory
It could be bunnies
Tara:
I\'ve got a -
Anya:
Bunnies aren\'t just cute like everybody supposes
They got them hoppy legs and twitchy little noses
And what\'s with all the carrots
What do they need such good eyesite for anyway
Bunnies, bunnies
It must be bunnies
Or maybe midgets
Willow:
I\'ve got a theory, we should work this fast
Giles,Willow:
Because it clearly could get serious before it\'s passed
Buffy:
I\'ve got a theory
It doesn\'t matter
What can\'t we face if we\'re together
What\'s in this place that we can\'t weather
Apocalypse
We\'ve all been there
The same old trips
Why should we care
Group:
What can\'t we do if we get in it
We\'ll work it through within a minute
We have to try
We\'ll pay the price
It\'s do or die
Buffy:
Hey, I\'ve died twice
Group:
What can\'t we face if we\'re together
Giles:
- What can\'t we face
Group:
What\'s in this place that we can\'t weather
Giles:
- If we\'re together
Group:
There\'s nothing we can\'t face
Anya:
Except for bunnies...

*bunny hops out of thread*

and maeve *spoiler* are you thinking of anya? or when she was shot at by the police woman??

*misses Buffy episodes*


I must've turned 2 into 3 somehow...

she *might* have died again after once more with feeling, but i can't remember.

she gets shot in the end of that season, and would die except for Willow's intervention.

her heart stops and the monitors go crazy. that counts as death.

Yeah, the first time she died at the end of Season One was kinda bogus, I thought, because Xander brings her back with CPR, right? CPR doesn't bring truly dead people back to life - the "R" doesn't stand for "resurrection."

But, it was enough to activate the next Slayer (the annoying Jamaican one, right) which leads me to believe that the powers that be are generally clueless or senile or something (and idea that's not entirely an off considering the nature of the Whedonverse) to not wait six hours or so before activation just to make sure.

She certainly dies and gets resurrected later in the series, of course, but if that death at the beginning of Season Two counts then the heart stoppage from the bullet wound should count, right?