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lg, the teacher thought it was postmodern. I thought it was pompous, which makes it kinda sorta postmodern.
 I understand what you mean more now, and I tend to agree. Rowling's statement was something the filmmakers definitely needed to know about - that was part of the context of her comments, that they were thinking of implying a past female love interest, an idea she nixed - but I do agree that since it's not on the printed page, it's the sort of thing you don't have to pay attention to unless you want to. It's canon, officially, and you're called to write in her universe, you'd better not imply a McGonnogal(sp?)/Dumbledore tryst, but while knowing it makes certain motivations clearer, it isn't vital to the understanding of the story. __________ AJGraeme "You see, I have a policy about honesty and ass-kicking: if you ask for it, I have to let you have it." -Taylor Mali "Science is the foot that kicks magic square in the nuts." -Scratch Fury |
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is hogging the Comfy Chair Member  |
This is from today's Telegraph, and she was also interviewed on the Today Programme this morning:
*********************** There once was a bard of Hong Kong Who thought limericks were too long. - Gerard Benson. |
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(I haven't read the rest of this thread)
The last book stank. Harry Potter and the Gaping Plotholes is more like it. Snape isn't as bad as you think his is (although still a double murderer), Dumbledore isn't as good or brilliant as you think he is (never really saw the 'he's gay' revelation in the text, but his other characteristics/bad judgment were similar to an addict of some sort), and once again Harry BAH! Voldemort can kill the Horcrux in Harry but not Harry? Gee, I thought way way back in Chamber of Secrets Harry was bit by a Horcrux-destroying-venom-filled basilisk -- why didn't it die then? Oh yeah, the author didn't think up the Harry-is-a-Horcrux plotline yet... Never ever again will I read another Rowling book or (pay to) see the movies. BAH! Edit: It's a shame...such a great mythology and it's been crapped up...it's The Matrix all over again!  This message has been edited. Last edited by: Furious, |
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A month or so ago I tried to read book #1 to Devlin and I just couldn't do it! It was so contrived and wading through the adjectives was just too much. I switched back to Pratchett. much easier.
I would have thought the end of the world is everyone's responsibility, wouldn't you? ~Death in Thief of Time Minister of Kraftwerk in the Realm of U & P, Order of the Pineapple with frond for advancement in Nap studies. |
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Knows what a real civil war should be Member |
I mean, I'll be the first to admit that I can't do any better, but wow, when it's exposition time, you can start speed-reading.
I was hoping the books would have Harry evolve into the hero wizard everyone thought he was by clevering himself out of a few impossible situations, but...I dunno...he's always bailed out of trouble by something...seems the creative well ran dry after she did the 'lets go back in time and fix everything' plotline. |
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Click here! Member  |
Personally I didn't mind the good/bad, wise/fool ambivalence - I tend to enjoy that in literature, actually - and I also always found it pretty cool that Harry was no super hero and didn't have or develop any special abilities or talent that would set him above everyone else. Except for the one thing he couldn't do anything about, namely just being the Boy Who Survived. So, sometimes he won by being lucky, sometimes it was help and love from others. In the end, it was also his own courage, though. I think that was quite beautiful.
And that said, I hated the endless camping trip - the first third of the last book. First time I ever got bored with a HP book.
Never thought of that... Sounds like a pretty big plot hole indeed, if that's how it went. ------------------------------------------------- Sorry, but you are looking for something that isn't here. |
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Knows what a real civil war should be Member |
The excuse will be something like 'because the Horcrux was connected to Harry, his lifeforce yada yada yada'...I hate it when writers break their own rules. |
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Erm, Harry didn't contain a Horcrux, he was a Horcrux, at least in that his soul and Voldemort's were so strongly linked that they experienced one another's lives to an extent. And a Horcrux has to be destroyed beyond any capacity for it to be repaired magically. And Harry was repaired. Magically. I'm not saying that she didn't come up with the requirements for the destruction of a Horcrux with the basilisk/Harry incident in mind, but it's internally consistent.
It isn't the fact that it's basilisk venom that makes it capable of destroying a Horcrux, it's that the venom is capable of destroying something beyond repair that makes it effective. __________ AJGraeme "You see, I have a policy about honesty and ass-kicking: if you ask for it, I have to let you have it." -Taylor Mali "Science is the foot that kicks magic square in the nuts." -Scratch Fury |
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I think I get what you're saying. I'm in the mindset (obviously) of Harry being separate from the Horcrux and thinking that it could be removed from him, much in the same manner Tom Riddle fragmented his soul and removed portions of it to create the Horcruxes in the first place.
Not to mention the fact that a snake's venom doesn't lie in it's fangs, but in special glands, so near-instantaneous Horcrux destruction from a disconnected fang would suggest that Harry wouldn't have lived along for the phoenix to- GAH! WHY DO I DO THIS TO MYSELF? |
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