A re-assessing is in order, and after glancing at the TP I have a few days back, here it is:

The glaring errors in the very first issue make it virtually unreadable. Shame on myself for not picking up on them for nearly 20 years. Guess I was just blinded by all of the slobbering, dripping bj's that moore and this comic have gotten over the years.

1. The cops searching The Comedian's apartment, and not finding the secret compartment where he stored his costume/child porn etc.

Come on.

The first rule when investigaing a crime scene is that you as the detective look at and examine every square inch of the area. This means looking specificially for probable hiding spaces/hidden rooms/doors etc.

Inexcusable and pathetic writing.

2) Rorschach's grappling hook and rope.

You are seriously going to tell me that no one is going to notice there's a rope hanging off the side of a skyscraper and not be the least bit interested in it. And spare me how it would be too late at night for anyone to be around. It's New York Fucking City, where there are at least 1,000,000 out on thet stareets 24/7, even at 3:35 in the morning. In the real world, which watmen is supposed to be set in, the rope would have been noticed and the cops would have been called.

Pathetic amateur writing.

3) Rorschach's breaking onto the military base.

I'm supposed to believe that Rorschach is going to cut through a security fence with a pair of wire cutters and not set off a huge alarm/lockdown of the base?

If Dr. manhatten is the most powerful thing in the friggin' universe and can kill you just by looking at you as well as being able to teleport you to another galaxy, why the need for the security at all?

Crappy, pathetic, amateur childish writing. A 3rd grader has a better concept of logic then Moore does.

I suspect you're gonna be on your own mate

*Offers a sympathetic pat on the back*

the suspension of disbelief.

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Originally posted by Travis Twitt:

Crappy, pathetic, amateur childish writing. A 3rd grader has a better concept of logic then Moore does.

Hookay, sure. Perhaps you can suggest a better writer than Alan Moore?

As far as the Army Base goes, I think you answered your own question.

It only took 6 posts for me to learn to ignore you. Congrats, a record.

Between your trolling in the Iran/nuke thread and this garbage, I'm pretty comfortable ignoring your opinions.

Perhaps you did not like Watchmen and you are entitled to you opinion TT, but there is something to be said for suspension of disbelief and the freedom to stop reading something you do not like.

I liked Watchmen pretty much, but it was somewhat forgettable. I don't know why or what it was, but to me, it felt like more labor than enjoyment to get through the whole collection 17 or 18 years ago. I peeked at the end to see who did what. I forgot.

I may try reading it again, now that I am older.

I just re-read a bunch if Shakespeare's plays... man, that guy had a terrible concept of logic.

It's cool how my acting coach said it really wasn't necessary to say "William" when auditioning a piece from Shakespeare. Everyone knows it's William Shakespeare.


I'm wondering if I just changed my last name to Shakespeare, I could have all sorts of interesting conversations about things I never wrote.

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I think its funny that everything that bothers you is stuff that DOESNT MATTER AT ALL.

Who gives a fuck? I think your problem is that you're trying to read it as an intricate thriller. It's not about the grappling hooks.

Maybe you should read it again, trying to look a little deeper?

Shakespeare completely messed up the atmosphere of places. I mean, did you notice that Verona in "Romeo and Juliet" is nothing like Verona?

And when will they freaking realize that Superman is Clark Kent without the bloody frigging glasses!?

Honestly, the nerve of some people,

Okay, so, Peter Parker is bit by a radioactive spider, right? Makes the papers, maybe, just a little. Kid gets sick from radiation poisoning and then gets better, a medical miracle. A few months later a guy with a spider emblazoned on his chest shows up and starts beating up wrestlers. No one makes the connection?

What about that big "4" on the top of the old Baxter Building? Doesn't that just scream "We're the Fantastic Four. We're over here. Come kill us now."?

Every villian in the world and most of the villians elsewhere with telescopes should have spotted the Fantastic Four's home, ganged up and killed them.

And c'mon, Galactus all of a sudden deciding he's not hungry right before sizing the Earth up as a Big Mac with superhero cheese.

Imagination is a wonderful thing.

*goes back to reading a Fin Fan Foom story*

actually, if i recall, everyone DOES know the FF live in the Baxter Building. i remember reading the arc where they go bankrupt and have to find a new place to live, but no one will take them in; paraphrasing one super's concerns, "What if the Mole Man finds out you moved? Not good for business." it was "4", so i dunno if this is in marvel continuity or not... i'm a (D)istanced (C)onsumer.

Is that the best you can do?

The premise that policemen and military security measures are infallible, and that New-Yorkers are observant, curious, and civic-minded?

You're pretty bad at this sort of thing.

Re: Suspension of disbelief.

That's fine if I'm reading a Batman/X-men/Superman etc comic book which does not claim to take place in the real world.

The entire premise of Watchmen is that it is based in the real world, just like the one that I walk around in.

And in that world, none of the stuff that I pointed out would be gotten away with, especially the military base and the grappling hook on the side of the building.

I think you should give an example of how Watchmen pretends to be in the "real world", as opposed to Batman or Superman.

Watchmen is in "the real world?"

Wow, I wonder why I haven't spoken to Dr. Manhattan as of late. Seriously, add masked heroes and superheroes, even villians and beings in a "real world-like" setting and you get something entirely different.

And hopefully entertaining,

Edit: All that said, I can understand why someone would have a hard time reading Watchmen. It just starts off so slowly and you do not initially have a place to ground yourself. But as the story progresses, you start to make connections and see the characters' logics in those connections.

Dr. Manhattan said it best -- most people only see a facet or a line in the crystal. Whereas he abjures Laurie to see the entire crystal like he can. My point is, some of the "facets" in Watchmen are interesting. But when you unite them all into an entire crystal, you see where they connections are and how everything is related you think, "Wow. How can I ever make something like that?"

Well, that is just what I took from it anyway.

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Originally posted by Matt Cable:
It only took 6 posts for me to learn to ignore you. Congrats, a record.

Between your trolling in the Iran/nuke thread and this garbage, I'm pretty comfortable ignoring your opinions.

Trolling??!!??

Listen up punk, just because you don't agree with what someone says but can't come up with an argument to refute it doesn't make that person a troll.

And I'm just going to be so fucking put out by your declaration that you're ignoring me.

Boo-fucking hoo.

Not.

You've been irrelevant since the day mommy spread her legs instead of opening her mouth.