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Goofy Beast Member |
Has anyone here read this comic by Chris Ware? I just finished it... The book pushed many of the same buttons as the movie About Schmidt, and I thought the visual style was fascinating, with the characters being fairly minimal but some of the backgrounds rich in detail. Somehow Ware succeeded for me in making Jimmy not just another pathetic, sad git but someone who could evoke sympathy. I'd love to hear what others thought, though.
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Yahr, fear the power of the elf-man! Member ![]() |
*bump*
I just started it. It is interesting but is is depressing. I may have to shelve it and pick it up here and there. I will see. ------------------------------ my cup runs over but I am so blind I just complain as it spills around me |
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Goofy Beast Member |
Definitely looking forward to hearing more of your thoughts on it. (Personally, I thought that the sheer technical craft made the depressing stuff more bearable.)
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Great wyrm of Toronto Member |
I've read it.
I really like the layers of style involved -- especially with regards to imagined scenes, flashbacks, and dreams. There was a lot of complexity and detail behind the minimalist and primary coloured surface and just so starkly ... lonely. And yeah, I think the craft did help with the subject matter a lot Thirith. Without that, well, I don't know if I would have finished it. I also Didn't read all the backs of the stickers part though -- the ones with all the landmarks and their histories, and some of the diagrams were ... very confusing to me. Perhaps sometimes the drawings could get a little too complicated if that makes any sense. But I feel richer for having read it. Actually: I wrote a very rough impression of how I found the book. It's been so long since I have read it, but if you're interested I can PM it to you. ______________________________ Do not leave me with a bowl of anything for an extended period of time. |
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Goofy Beast Member |
I'd definitely be interested, Mythos. Is there any reason why you wouldn't want to post it here, though? Seems like the ideal place.
I agree that some of the layouting becomes confusing, although I thought that this was fairly effective in the case of Jimmy Corrigan. It's confusing because its structure is complex and because of the many layers of meaning, not because Chris Ware is a bad writer, if that makes any sense. In terms of mood it reminded me of About Schmidt, a film that I found quite devastating when I saw it, although I can't say how much of that was because Schmidt reminded me so much of my dad. |
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Great wyrm of Toronto Member |
Ok, Thirith. And sure. Here is my entry on Jimmy Corrigan:
______________________________ Do not leave me with a bowl of anything for an extended period of time. |
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Goofy Beast Member |
Thanks a lot. There's much to think about there.
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Yahr, fear the power of the elf-man! Member ![]() |
*Avoids new posts*
I am halfway through. I want to read all thoughts when I have finished. Still depressing but it has me hooked. ------------------------------ my cup runs over but I am so blind I just complain as it spills around me |
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Yahr, fear the power of the elf-man! Member ![]() |
I finished.
I have not read the notes in the back of the book yet starting with :apology" but I will. I think you both make some very interesting points and insights. I had conflicting feelings as I read this book. Often, but not always, a story allows to see a character transform from what he or she was when the story began to something else. I found it interesting that this story did not take that route. I guess the scene at the end when he meets the new office girl who is working late on Thanksgiving might lead to something more positive in the life of Jim but we are not left with any real evidence to that affect. The reason I felt conflicted was that there were so many times I found myself wanting to see a typical Hollywood ending and have Jim find some solace and happiness in his life but at the same time I would have been very disappointed and angry had the story taken that route. Still, I wanted to see poor Jim get a break, come out of his shell and start to grow. He is 36 and I fear that his behaviors are quite ingrained and he may not be able to grow emotionally at this point. It is frustrating and beautiful at the same time that the reader will never really know. I really enjoyed the art and style of the comic as well. Simple and complex at the same time. Almost reminded me of Charlie Harper at times. I also thought it was interesting that we never see the characters of Jim Corrigan or his grandfather outside of their current age and childhood flashbacks. There is no observance of their teenage lives and other years years between the then and now. I think this was done on purpose to make us focus on how we are still have many of the frailties and insecurities of childhood and that time in our lives helps define us maybe more than any other. I am rambling a bit but as painful as it was to read, I really enjoyed it. ------------------------------ my cup runs over but I am so blind I just complain as it spills around me |
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Goofy Beast Member |
I think the lack of development (what you called a "typical Hollywood ending") is quite a common trend in a certain type of writing coming especially from the US - I mentioned About Schmidt earlier on, and a number of indie movies and short stories that don't go for "quirky" seem to have a similar quality. The small tragedy of the small man, the low-key tragedy of sad, pathetic lives and people who are vaguely aware of how pathetic their lives are, yet they're not aware enough or strong enough to do much about it. Any positive developments are tentative at best (like the bit with the office girl that you mentioned).
Lots of people seem to hate that sort of story - they find it depressing and pointless. I think they can be very effective if done well; in the case of Jimmy Corrigan, it's the subtlety in the characterisation and the formal virtuosity. What is essential to them is that the writer doesn't look down on the characters or uses them for cheap laughs. |
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