Originally posted by E.J.

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How about the sorting hat?

How would Voldemort get his hands on the sorting hat to make it into a horcrux?

I still believe that one of the Horcrux's is some type of living thing. It could be Human, it might not be, but I would think that LV would have tried it, at least once.

One thing that is bothering me though: With the number of people LV has killed, he could make many more than 7 Horcrux's. I don't understand why DD was so set upon seven. Sure, it's te most powerful wzard number, but how do you know he didn't do 9, or 6, or even 15. Since nobody has done more than one split, other than LV, I don't think having seven of them has even proven to be anything special.

if a wizard was an animagus and had turned into an animal and climbed into the boat, would they be detected as a full grown wizard? Because if they werent' perhaps a animagus had climbed in..?

Orignally posted by R.A.B.

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One thing that is bothering me though: With the number of people LV has killed, he could make many more than 7 Horcrux's. I don't understand why DD was so set upon seven. Sure, it's te most powerful wzard number, but how do you know he didn't do 9, or 6, or even 15. Since nobody has done more than one split, other than LV, I don't think having seven of them has even proven to be anything special.

Voldemort probably feels that seven is a truly magical and lucky number. In my Geometry class at school, we learned that somewhere in Asia there was this guy who spent over $200,000 to have a telephone number as follows: 777-7777. So Voldemort feels that the number seven will grant him the power to defeat his most dangerous foe: Mr. Harry Potter

Ok, I think I have just solved this mysterious R.A.B. thing. You all know that Regulus Black died? Well, last night I got to thinking: It was said that he died by Death Eaters. Maybe this was a cover story to what really happened. He went and retrieved the locket from the basin. The potion that was in there when Harry and Dumbledore arrived was the same as the one when Regulus got there. Regulus drank the original potion and took the locket and put the potion back in, but freshly brewed. The locket was then taken back to #12 Grimmauld Place. Soon after Regulus took it back to his home, he died due to the potion. This is my opinion, tell me what you think.

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Originally posted by E.J.:
How about the sorting hat?

We believe there is one horcrux in each book:

SS: Possibly Harry himself. Think about it- a horcrux is something that Voldemort has put a piece of his soul into, in order to continue surviving. When he tried to kill Harry, did he not, inadvertantly put a piece of his soul into him? We think Voldemort, unknowingly, made Harry a horcrux.

CS: The diary. This is confirmed by Dumbledore, and is destroyed.

PoA: This must be the cup of Hufflepuff's that Tom Riddle took from the woman in the memory that Dumbledore showed Harry. Now, we just need to re-read to find evidence of this.

GoF: Nagini- the snake. Dumbledore assumes this is true.

OOP: On page 116, JK mentions a locket that noone can open. This might be the locket that R.A.B. (Regulus Black?) removed from the cave. We know that Mundungus has been stealing things from the Black home, so this could be anywhere.

HBP: We know the horcurx in this book is the ring.

Book 7: This is the original person- Lord Voldemort.

Our suspicions are that once the horcruxes are destroyed and Harry and Voldemort have their final face-off, they will both die. Yes. Harry too. BUT, Fawkes will return to Harry and choose to give his life to save Harry- as in mythology, this is something that a Phoenix can do.

ALSO, for factual information on why R.A.B. is Regulus Black, look up "Regulus Roman History" in Google. It is very interusting!

So, what does everyone think...?

wait, do we know 4 sure that regulas middle anital is "a"?

I think Harry and/or Neville are horcruxes. I figure it is a stroke of evil genius to place a portion of your soul inside the enemy that is prophecied to kill you.

Harry's being a horcrux would explain why Harry looks like Tom Riddle, speaks parseltongue, and was nearly sorted into Slytherin by the Sorting Hat. The murder of Harry's parents would provide the required death(s) needed to create the horcrux and Lilly's love for Harry and sacrifice would have made the death an exceptionally powerful/emotional one.

I also wonder if the same thing might have been tried with Neville. I can't help but believe he still has a role to play. Perhaps Harry's death/self-sacrifice a la Dumbledore in book 6 will steel Neville to do what has to be done. Lucius Malfoy donates a lot of gold to St. Mungo's Hospital (where Neveille's parents are off in lala-land; maybe Voldemort was covering both bases and went after Neville too (or planned to before his attempt with Harry cost him so dearly).

I wonder is, given all the references to time, clocks, hourglasses, timeturners, etc. if the 18 year old Harry will go back using Hermione's time turner---only the Ministry supply was destroyed---and face Voldemort on the night he comes to Kill James and Lily. Defeat Voldemort and save your parents, too; not bad. Ultimately, though, I wonder if Harry would choose his present life, despite his many losses, since Ginny is now in it.

Further, I can't tell if all of Dumbledore's arguments with Snape were in an effort to get Snape to kill him (or appear to kill him) when the time came. This might be a plot to help Snape go deeper inside the Death Eater organization or to give Harry the final determination to kill Voldemort (Harry lacked sufficient hatred to use avada kedavra otherwise and perhaps Snape was only able to use it because of the unbreakable vow that Dumbledore probably encouraged him to take). I just can't believe Dumbledore would go out that easily unless he did so willingly. Besides, Fawkes phoenix tears migh be enough to save Dumbledore, whose funeral fireworks were mysterious indeed.

as far as horcruxes ar concerned i think everyone is right on six of them, but the seventh one seems to be giving us all trouble.. i really don't think that it could be gryffindor's sword and i don't think that it could be neville. i also don't put to much stock into snape helping harry destroy the dark lord. you have to remember we have all hated snape since day 1, and now we finally have a solid reason to hate him.snape always turns up at the end of each book and it is always in a bad way. so lets face it harry will kill him! andi will be happy when that happens. Snape told voldemort the prohpecy about lily and james (dead), provoked sirius to fight at the ministry (dead), killed dumbledore. anyway i hate snape but back to horcruxes. i really thinkn that remulus destroyed the lockett he could have used kreacher to help him drink the potion. the seventh could be harry, but i think it will be something else. i think that it will be something with a lot of meaning. so lets keep the ideas rolling and figure this thing out.

Here's a thought:

Voldemort likes trophies. What if he made a quidditch cup (trophy case) a horcrux?

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Originally posted by Christina4062:


SS: Possibly Harry himself. Think about it- a horcrux is something that Voldemort has put a piece of his soul into, in order to continue surviving. When he tried to kill Harry, did he not, inadvertantly put a piece of his soul into him? We think Voldemort, unknowingly, made Harry a horcrux

I'm pretty sure that Harry has once been a horcux. I'm not entirly sure if he still is now. Hear me out....

In HBP we meet Gaunt's Ring. We are not told by JKR if it was cracked at the time Gaunt was wearing it. Lets presume it wasn't. but we do know that when we saw it with Dumbledoor, it was cracked down the middle. What we do not know if wheter the cracking was caused by the ring being made into a horcrux, or whetere it was Dumbledoor who cracked it, in destroyig the Horcrux.

I live in england, and on my copy of the book, there is a picture of Harry and Dumbledoor on the front and a picture of the ring on the side.

While examining the cover, I saw the ring, with a jagerdy crack down the middle, and Harry's lightning bolt scar. The crack and the scar. The crack and the scar. Anyone else see the resemberlence?


Oh and on R.A.B, I agree that it is Regulus Black. JkR is brilliant in bringing in fringe charactore and then pushing them into the spotlight. One more thing, on his middle name, we know that characters are given mddle names of there ancestors. Harry James Potter, Tom Marvalo Riddle. Sirius mentions in OotP that he has an Uncle Alphard. Is Regulus Alphard Black a possible name.

Lastly. I don't thibk it was the actual spell that killed Dumbledoor.Bella said that to do an unforgivable curse, your heart had to be in it. Snape is not evil,so his spell wasn't strong enough. Dumbledoor died of falling from the tower.

I've also heard a terpy that R.A.B is Prof. Binns

I belive Harry Potter is the 6th Horcruxes.

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Harry can't be the other Horcruxe, because Voldy would have had all seven done before he made himself known to the public during the first war.
Also i have a feeling that Godrics Hollow either is a Horcruxe or contains one, just something harry says in the last chapter, "I thought i might go back to Godrics Hollow, for me i started there, all of it. I've just got a feeling i need to go there. And i can visit my parents grave, i'd like that."

the show down between harry and voldemort could take place at godrics hollow?

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Originally posted by Lord Voldemort:
What other Horcruxes do you think there are?

Gryffindor's sword appeared when Harry fought the Basalisk(sp.) in COS. It came out of the sorting hat. I'm not surem I could be wrong, if Riddle/Voldemort would have been able to get his hands on it.

Plus, Also from COS, When Hermione asked McGonnogal about the Chamber of Secrets, McGonnogal said that 3 of the founders coinsided harmoniously, the 3 being Gryffindor, Hufflepuff, and Ravenclaw. If this is true and we already have something of Slytherin's and Hufflepuff's, wouldn't Voldemort want to do something to "break up the alliance" against Slytherin?

I assume it to be something of Ravenclaw's. We have heard too little Ravenclaw for it to be just a coenscedence. Do we know anything of Rowina Ravenclaw's that Voldemort would treasure enought to put his soul into?

Harry's scar/Harry is probably a horcrux.


Well, Think about it.

Just from JK Rowling's point of view alone, wouldn't it be such a dramatic twist to the story?

I mean, come on.

Imagine- Harry can't destroy Voldemort....without killing himself! From the beginning of the series, Harry has always been a martyr. Plus, it's the final book, why wouldn't she kill him off? I know this isn't what you want to hear......

This is all merely speculation.


LAST BUT NOT LEAST

I read an interview in a magazine a year ago with JK Rowling, and she said that the final word in the last book is "SCAR".

Oooh, this gives me chills.

I'm a little sad, I want Harry to live as much as the next guy, but there's no avoiding it....

Another piece of an interview with JK:

JK Rowling replies -> The shape is not the most significant aspect of that scar, and that's all I'm going to say!

I think that Dumbledore will still be able to communicate with everyone through his picture in his used-to-be office. He will help Harry verbally, but he won't be able to be there with him when he's finding the Horcruxes.

Do you think Voldemort's wand could be a Horcrux? Just a wild thought, but now that I wrote it down I begin to think it's unlikely. . .