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have any of you read the new dragon books: Inheritance Trilogy, by Christopher Paolini? I was totally enthralled and i have come to find out that they are releasing it in the theater on December 15th! It is supposed to be the next fantasy epic and take the place of LOR in our hearts. So far they haven't released what the dragons look like but it seems like they are going to make it a surprise. The third in the series should come out next summer. It's going to be green with the face of the currently unhatched dragon facing right. The title should follow the pattern E_ _ _ _ _ as with the rest. People guess Empire. what do you think? Am i the only one who risked losing their mind starting a series that isn't finished? well don't wait anymore or you'll see it in theaters first!


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I read the first two and I thought the first one was better than the second. I rather liked all the Star Wars references, they made me smile. It could make a good movie if done right.

They take a risk adapting it to film before it's finished, but I guess the author is young enough that they can twist his arm to make sure he finishes it on time.
 
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star wars? i didn't catch any of that.


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I might not have noticed it either, but I either heard it from someone or from an interview that C. Paolini is a big fan of Star Wars and he saw the first book as almost a sort of tribute.

If you think about it - young guy gets his whole family killed over something he inadvertedly came to posess and that the empire wants back... runs away with an older guy who starts training him... discovers some powers he has and his ties to the political scene in the empire... any of these sound familiar?

Also, the dragon riders were once the keepers of the peace in the empire, then what's his name converted his for his evil plans. Almost no dragons remain but for Eragon's and the emperor's.

It's fine, it didn't bother me knowing that all similarities were done on purpose and that the author admited to it. It's much worse that George Lucas got a lot of material from the Foundation saga by Asimov, even down to character names, and never ever admited to any of it.

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I haven't read them, as I have heard many, many bad things about them from serious fantasy readers and writers. I've heard they are a bit cliched and wordy.


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well i think it being a best seller just means that he hit a topic that people love. Dragons. They are popular again and few are filling the void. but i really liked it. its a good story. i write fantasy and since my weekness is description i enjoy things that are heavy in it. give it a try see what you think.


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Being a bestseller might have something to do with he was 15 or 16 when he wrote it. Not that that's a knock, I wish I had been published when I was that age. Big Grin

I am planning on reading Eragon (probably in the next year). I have heard good and bad things about it. I hope it's good.


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I own one of the first release copies of the book. It's currently sitting on my bookshelf back in Montana. Doesn't hurt that he's also from Montana.


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pssst....


You know it's made into a movie....


Eragon movie link

I see the series as an amalgamation of Tolkien (down to the character's names and languages) and McCaffrey.


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i can't wait for the movie, though i would like the third book more! it looks like a good cast though. all the related characters even look a like


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Where do I begin? Hmm, well, the fact of that matter is this, Christopher Paolini is not a good writer, and the only reason that 'Eragon' was a best seller was that he was so young. It was a gimmick, it has nothing to do with talent. Yes, i'm jealous, I wish my parents owned a publishing house and could publish me before I've truly learned skill. I didn't read the second book, but the first was simply a long parade of fantasy cliches marching past to the beat of a large group of more talented writers, particularly Tolkien. I've no doubt that Paolini has potential, it's hard to put so many words to paper, but when it comes right down to it, it isn't how many words you put down, it's how good the words are. He isn't good. He doesn't deserve to go to comicon. He doesn't deserve a film. He doesn't deserve to be a best seller. It also annoys me how he does those talks and acts like he's so grizzled an experiences and knows what he's talking about. Even if i'd written dozens of novels and had been a best seller for years I couldn't condescend like that. No, as you can tell, I don't like Christopher Paolini or his work.


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What I felt about it is that you really can't stop thinking that this is a book written by a gifted teenager while reading it. But it's still enjoyable. Cripes, he's no Tolkien, for pete's sake.

I haven't read the second. I will probably do that if there's an official announcement that "Eldest" is being made into a film.

And as for the movie, I really can't wait to see it. I'm almost done with a Durza costume I've made for Halloween based off the movie. I just need the teeth. (Somehow, evil pale guys with pointy teeth turn me on...)
 
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as a trainee teacher, i'ma have to read it. i can't wait. Smile


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Originally posted by The_Raven:
Where do I begin? Hmm, well, the fact of that matter is this, Christopher Paolini is not a good writer, and the only reason that 'Eragon' was a best seller was that he was so young. It was a gimmick, it has nothing to do with talent. Yes, i'm jealous, I wish my parents owned a publishing house and could publish me before I've truly learned skill. I didn't read the second book, but the first was simply a long parade of fantasy cliches marching past to the beat of a large group of more talented writers, particularly Tolkien. I've no doubt that Paolini has potential, it's hard to put so many words to paper, but when it comes right down to it, it isn't how many words you put down, it's how good the words are. He isn't good. He doesn't deserve to go to comicon. He doesn't deserve a film. He doesn't deserve to be a best seller. It also annoys me how he does those talks and acts like he's so grizzled an experiences and knows what he's talking about. Even if i'd written dozens of novels and had been a best seller for years I couldn't condescend like that. No, as you can tell, I don't like Christopher Paolini or his work.


you think life is about getting what you deserve? naaaah.

lots of bestsellers don't "deserve" to be. hasn't stopped them selling copies.


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Believe me, I know it. But that doesn't mean I can't get pissed about it. I hate Michael Crichton, he's not a good writer, but at least he has something going for him (decent concepts) and isn't just a gimmick like the "Eighteen-year-old-homeschooled-kid-who-didn't-go-to-college-and-made-up-a-language."


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Dude, when you put it like that: when I grow up I want to be Christopher Paolini! Big Grin Razz


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Yeah, only he didn't do it well. His writing is poor and, frankly, anyone who's studied only a little latin could make up a language as well as he has.


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everyone has to start somewhere; give the kid some time to develop more, see what happens. does anyone have an idea of what the average age of published authors is? i'm pretty sure it isn't anywhere between 16-18, so don't try to compare him to an esteemed university languages professor. he got published; good for him. don't be jealous.


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He may not have the best writing style but it works for some people, quite many of them in fact. There are other writers that annoy me a lot more - like Kostova's The Historian was way over-hyped.
 
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Whatever your gripes with 'The Historian' were, one thing that cannot be said about it was that its prose was weak. I liked it, I could see where some might not, but one must admit that it was well-written. I'm not trying to say Paolini should be Tolkien, but neither should he be published. Nor should a lot of people who are, and it always ticks me off, Paolini is just the most prominant at the moment.


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